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Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 11:24 am
by fc60
Greetings,

Anyone know what manufacture this pistol is?

Actually, any information is welcome.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/989371201

Cheers,

Dave

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 1:19 pm
by glenn andrew
Looks like a Vostok Margolin/MCM with a barrel weight.
Glenn

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 4:26 pm
by UnGe
No idea what it is, but I am pretty sure it is not Margolin. Or a heavily-butchered one that lost its hammer?

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 7:25 pm
by j-team
Definately a Margolin. Modified for Rapid fire competition. Used by may Eastern block competitors
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Margolin_2.jpg

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 10:28 pm
by UnGe
j-team wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 7:25 pm Definately a Margolin. Modified for Rapid fire competition. Used by may Eastern block competitors
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Margolin_2.jpg
I stand corrected. But where is the hammer?

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 12:53 am
by ojh
UnGe wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:28 pm I stand corrected. But where is the hammer?
It hides behind the hump of the grip.

Here´s a quite similar conversion:
https://m.optykamysliwska.pl/bron-pozos ... golin-22lr

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 9:34 am
by UnGe
If it hides, it does it very well :)

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 10:36 pm
by hurt
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder…or shooter… but that is one strange looking pistol!!

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:50 pm
by atomicgale
Definitely KGB.

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:37 am
by BobGee
This is a MTsU-U, a Margolin in .22 Short reworked by sport pistol armourers in Suhl, in Eastern Germany back in the day for the Olympic Rapid Fire event. This modified Margolin was used by the Polish RF shooter, Jozef Zapedski to win gold medals in the 1968 and 1972 Olympics. He narrowly lost a third in 1976 due to dud ammunition. Jozef passed away quite recently.

A colleague of mine and I wrote an article on these pistols a couple of years ago which was put up on TT in this thread: https://targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?p= ... in#p313393

It is an interesting development of the Margolin in order to lower the barrel line in relation to the grip. I found one in Germany, bought it and imported it to Australia. It garnered a lot of interest amongst the Margolin nuts down under - and there are many. A nice pistol to shoot but no longer permissible under current ISSF rules.

Enjoy the read. Any comments would be welcome by Tony and me.

Bob

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 10:22 am
by -TT-
BobGee wrote: Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:37 am A colleague of mine and I wrote an article on these pistols a couple of years ago which was put up on TT in this thread: https://targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?p= ... in#p313393
The pdf link in that article returns a 404. Is it available elsewhere?

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:28 am
by BobGee
Thanks -TT-, you’re right. Not sure what has happened to the Burilda PC website. Am trying to find out. Meantime I think I can post a link to my DropBox. I'll be back…

Bob

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 1:44 am
by BobGee
Try this link until I can organise something more permanent.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/p5h9p19c ... mi712o6bmf

Hope it works. Let me know if not.

Bob

Re: Identify Russian Rapid Fire Pistol

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 10:18 am
by -TT-
Fascinating article, thanks! I am impressed how it covers so many aspects of the story. The innovative mechanics of the trigger and sear are especially interesting, I recognize them in today's Feinwerkbau and even Pardini...