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Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:36 pm
by moonlightrun
Anyone ever put a tuner on an air rifle?
How did it turn out?
Any reason not to try a tuner on an air rifle?
Do you think it would make a difference on a 10m rifle?
Thanks, Bob

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:38 pm
by 1845greyhounds
This one might be more about balance...
https://www.centra-visier.de/en/product ... s/tube-v0/

Guy Starik is involved with an air rifle tuner with Tec Hro.
https://tec-hro.de/schiesssport/en/reco ... uning.html

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:53 am
by moonlightrun
Thanks 1845gh for the interesting websites. I studied them both. I'm wondering if the first one is maybe moving the front sight back and forth as a tuning technique? The second sight was .22 rim fire so I'm not sure.

I would bet someone has figured out how to tune air rifles. Teach us please!

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:32 am
by Tim S
.22 shooter here, so I have to ask are tuners needed on 10M air rifles? While there is disagreement on how .22 tuners work, everyone seems to accept tuners are there due to velocity variation both within a batch of ammo, and between batches. 10M air rifles don't suffer in this way; the propulsion is internal, and regulated for consistency. What's the tuner actually going to tune?

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:24 pm
by 1845greyhounds
Moonlight - the Tec Hro unit IS an air rifle tuner (not rimfire)

Tuners adjust the barrel harmonics. So while an air rifle has much less/lower excitation force(s) than a 22 rimfire, there are some. Is an air rifle tuner worth it? Maybe, maybe not.

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:36 pm
by Tim S
1845greyhounds wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 3:24 pm Tuners adjust the barrel harmonics. So while an air rifle has much less/lower excitation force(s) than a 22 rimfire, there are some. Is an air rifle tuner worth it? Maybe, maybe not.
But if manipulating barrel harmonics is about minimising the effect of velocity variation, why tune when velocity isn't a variable?

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 5:19 pm
by moonlightrun
Just trying to imagine every shot my rifle is capable of being just a hair better at even 10m. Maybe it isn't possible, but maybe it is. I just wonder has anyone accomplished it?

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:26 pm
by marky-d
Both of those air rifle "tuners" appear just to be weights that attach to the barrel shroud, not actually the barrel. As such, they would not do anything to barrel harmonics -- i.e. not function like a typical rimfire tuner. They seem to be calling them "tuners" just from the standpoint of being able to tune the weight distribution of the rifle.

I'm sure there's some possibility that a tuner would do something on an air rifle, but considering it seems like most high end rifles can already put X number of shots through the same hole from a rest, I'm not sure how much there is to gain.

marky-d

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 10:45 am
by moonlightrun
Good point marky-d

Re: Air Rifle Tuner

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:53 am
by spektr
One should look at the Starik tube for what it is, a sight extension. As such, it will score better IF you are capable of aiming the more sensitive sight package. As far as a harmonics tuner, my FWB 800X doesn't need one, Watch the video, the test target shooting is amazing and you see how one is put together..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj8hCcrAwk4