AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

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Mike M.
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AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

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I've been looking over the various air pistols. I own an LP10, a CM162E, a P44, and even a Hammerli 480.

Right now, air pistol is divided between Steyr, Morini, and Other...with Other taking perhaps 20% of the market at best. And it occurred to me that the one thing the Steyr and Morini have, and most of the Others don't, is a low bore axis. The P44, in particular, is very high above the hand. Meaning that rotational errors are magnified.

Does this make sense? Or am I on the wrong track.
spektr
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Re: AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

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Actually no..... The P44 is adjustable for rotation around the bore axis. i have dialed in cant because a verticle hold isnt best for me. If I rotate CCW my hold has much less forearm stress......
Coolmeester
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Re: AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

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Mike M. wrote:I've been looking over the various air pistols. I own an LP10, a CM162E, a P44, and even a Hammerli 480.

Right now, air pistol is divided between Steyr, Morini, and Other...with Other taking perhaps 20% of the market at best. And it occurred to me that the one thing the Steyr and Morini have, and most of the Others don't, is a low bore axis. The P44, in particular, is very high above the hand. Meaning that rotational errors are magnified.

Does this make sense? Or am I on the wrong track.
Rotational errors are magnified if bore to sight distance is big?
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Christopher Miceli
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i'm guessing that you see so many of certain brand on the line for two reasons. First being the Steyr and Morini have electronic triggers. The other (which i know is true for outboard boat motors) is based on available and support available to you.

I won't by a match gun because i know of no factory support in my country.
Houngan
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Re: AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

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Coolmeester wrote:
Mike M. wrote:I've been looking over the various air pistols. I own an LP10, a CM162E, a P44, and even a Hammerli 480.

Right now, air pistol is divided between Steyr, Morini, and Other...with Other taking perhaps 20% of the market at best. And it occurred to me that the one thing the Steyr and Morini have, and most of the Others don't, is a low bore axis. The P44, in particular, is very high above the hand. Meaning that rotational errors are magnified.

Does this make sense? Or am I on the wrong track.
Rotational errors are magnified if bore to sight distance is big?
Yes. The further the bore is from the sights, the longer an "arm" it has to swing on. Take it to an extreme, if your visual ability to detect rotational error in the sight is 1 degree, then if the bore were a hundred yards away it would be more than an inch out of alignment.
Houngan
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Re: AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

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Coolmeester wrote:
Mike M. wrote:I've been looking over the various air pistols. I own an LP10, a CM162E, a P44, and even a Hammerli 480.

Right now, air pistol is divided between Steyr, Morini, and Other...with Other taking perhaps 20% of the market at best. And it occurred to me that the one thing the Steyr and Morini have, and most of the Others don't, is a low bore axis. The P44, in particular, is very high above the hand. Meaning that rotational errors are magnified.

Does this make sense? Or am I on the wrong track.
Rotational errors are magnified if bore to sight distance is big?
Yes. The further the bore is from the sights, the longer an "arm" it has to swing on. Take it to an extreme, if your visual ability to detect rotational error in the sight is 1/60th of a degree, then if the bore were a hundred yards away it would be more than an inch out of alignment.
j danielsson
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Re: AP Thought - Go Low (with the bore)

Post by j danielsson »

One of the things l disliked most with my electronic Morini was it's ridiculously high bore.
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