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The LP10 does not shoot better than any other air pistol...

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:24 am
by brent375hh
But it makes me a better shooter through my training. I am now convinced that the recoil reduction is a valuable training aid. Last night I shot a pair of 97s back to back with my IZH and LP10. The difference is that the LP10, when fired correctly does not move when gripped and triggered correctly. With R10 light pellets, and tuning my velocity and tungsten weight travel, it is like you are shooting a puff of air that still produces a hole in the target. As if combining dry fire with live results.

Setting it up had me holding it by the frame with my thumb and index finger triggering it with my other hand. Once I got it where I wanted it, I shot my other air pistols with the same technique. They moved much more.

While I can spot each shot with my other pistols to determine if I did something wrong and do an analysis of the shot, the LP10 lets me know upon breaking the shot, and in the long run, makes me a better shooter IMHO. You certainly don't need to spend the money if you already have a good air pistol, but if you are considering a new pistol anyway, I think it is worth looking into.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:34 pm
by Sa-tevo
I found my Steyr LP50 much easier to shoot than my IZH MP-46m. Like the difference between driving a sportscar versus a pickup truck on mountain roads. No change in high scores yet, but less low scores.

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:31 pm
by Gerard
Sounds similar to my experience with moving from the Pardini K10 to the K12. With the K10 I could shoot the same scores as with the K12... on a good day, when well in control, with consistent technique. With the recoilless K12 I find the pistol more forgiving of my bad days, resulting in about a 3 to 5 point rise in my training average. In competition when my nerves can at times make for less than optimal consistency the K12 gets me through rough patches with fewer 8's. A recoilling pistol seems to exaggerate bad form beyond a linear decrease in point value. A recoilless pistol doesn't exaggerate it, rather delivers exactly the shot as delivered by a slight trigger error. Often this means a 1 point difference per weak shot, at least in my experience.

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:42 am
by therider
Although I am a newbie I have the same experience. After 1 month of consideration I ended up deciding between LP10 and Lp400. I would have liked to include K12 but even if I was ready to drive to Tuscany I would have not be able to try it (no facility at Pardini).
I find the LP400 completely motionless, even more than LP10, and follow through is fantastic. I managed to shoot my first eight 10.4 (at least) in a raw. However I hate the trigger. It improved after being set up by a technician, but still not good... Also for the technician.
So the very final contest was between LP10 and LP10e..,.and the winner was LP10e! Honestly I could not feel the difference.... So I decided for the electronic (despite the much thicker grip, whic I HOPE that I will be able to file 6mm thinner at the heel of the hand) just because every time I shot it I got a a10! Great feeling of the pistol in the hand, follow through a bit less good than with Lp400. , but I hope that it is only due to the grip or my inexperience.... Other option, of course, is that the James Bond manufacture managed to design a better absorber!