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It's out now: "Olympic Pistol Shooting", 2013 edit
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:54 am
by Ulrich Eichstädt
The first copies have been distributed at the World Cup Final in Munich, now MEC and publisher Heinz Reinkemeier announced the sale of their pistol book:
http://blog.mec-centra.de/new-olympic-pistol-shooting/
and here a lot more:
http://www.heinzreinkemeier.de/deutsch/ ... oting-new/
(and, I'm also in there, althought my personal info is a bit outdated now)
but... don't ask me how to order it from foreign countries... :) , obviously via
http://shop.mec-shot.com/en/book---pist ... 1/item/208
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:48 pm
by Gwhite
I've been waiting for this for a long time. Their rifle book is fantastic. However, MEC's web site still only lists the German version.
:(
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:14 pm
by j-team
Gwhite wrote:I've been waiting for this for a long time. Their rifle book is fantastic. However, MEC's web site still only lists the German version.
:(
Umm... there's a link in the above post by Ulrich...
http://shop.mec-shot.com/en/book---pist ... 1/item/208
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:59 pm
by Tzed250
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:36 pm
by rmca
Is it worth it?
Can someone who has read it post some feedback. I'm genuinely interested, but the price plus shipping makes me ask first... :)
Thanks
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:13 pm
by Gwhite
Yes, but I couldn't find any ordering info except for the German version. Soon, presumably...
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:26 pm
by shaky hands
rmca wrote:Is it worth it?
Unless you are a complete beginner reading books about shooting will not improve your skills, only diligent training on and off range will. Shooting is not calculus or criminal law, it is a very simple activity. Mastering it is all about finding what works for you and practicing it. Having said that, there is one situation when a book would be valuable. That is if it could inspire you to think, search, and train harder and smarter.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:05 am
by Ulrich Eichstädt
Gwhite, please use the link that I and also j-team mentioned:
http://shop.mec-shot.com/en/book---pist ... 1/item/208
Before that perhaps change the language of the online-shop to english (Top right corner). No. 411 is really the english book, just look at the cover.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:21 am
by RobStubbs
Ulrich Eichstädt wrote:Gwhite, please use the link that I and also j-team mentioned:
http://shop.mec-shot.com/en/book---pist ... 1/item/208
Before that perhaps change the language of the online-shop to english (Top right corner). No. 411 is really the english book, just look at the cover.
I followed that link and ordered my copy last night.
With regards the question 'is it worth it', well it may give some extra pointers but as mentioned, reading a book won't make you an expert shooter. I would suggest it's a long way short of getting a decent coach, but for a lot of people there simply isn't the accessibility to coaches.
Ro.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:48 am
by Ulrich Eichstädt
So, the main difference to other shooting books is, also according to your thesis, Rob (which is right of course), that Reinkemeiers books don't tell you "the one way how it has to be done" - but you see in many, many pictures and drawings, how the actual top shooters of the world do it. Their shooting styles differ a lot, but one can just take all the necessary info for your style.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:29 pm
by rmca
RobStubbs wrote:With regards the question 'is it worth it', well it may give some extra pointers but as mentioned, reading a book won't make you an expert shooter. I would suggest it's a long way short of getting a decent coach, but for a lot of people there simply isn't the accessibility to coaches.
Ulrich Eichstädt wrote:So, the main difference to other shooting books is, also according to your thesis, Rob (which is right of course), that Reinkemeiers books don't tell you "the one way how it has to be done" - but you see in many, many pictures and drawings, how the actual top shooters of the world do it. Their shooting styles differ a lot, but one can just take all the necessary info for your style.
Sorry Ulrich Eichstädt, didn't mean to take over your post... I do appreciate the links for the book.
To specify the question on was it worth it, is the book written in a way that a 560 AP shooter can learn and improve from it?
Or is it just for beginners?
Those who had read it in german (because it was available previously), was it helpful for you? Even if it was just reading something you already knew?
Is it comparable to the "ways of the rifle" or "air rifle shooting"? (I´m not a rifle shooter but do have friends who are, and they speak wonders of these books)
Thanks for your answers
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:52 pm
by Ulrich Eichstädt
That was no contradiction. I think that anybody who has no own experienced Coach will Benefiz from from books like this one. But as Rob pointed out: Reading (and eben understanding) of the book doesn't automatically make you a better shooting. That needs shooting, analysing, changier Habits and shooting better.
And of course, I promise (though I don't paticipate from the book sellings..) that anybody with 560 in Air pistol will become a better shooter By Reading this book.
Sorry for too many Capital letters here, I was tired to teach my IPad that I wanted to Write in english instead of german.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:11 am
by RobStubbs
rmca wrote:To specify the question on was it worth it, is the book written in a way that a 560 AP shooter can learn and improve from it?
Or is it just for beginners?
To give my slant without reading the book (apart from seeing the German and part translated bits of it).
Can you learn and improve from it - I'd say abolutely yes
But
will you improve from it - I'd say that's different for different people. If you read anything and learn new, and better, technical aspects then you should get better, but only if you apply them correctly and train effectively.
I personally don't expect to learn much from the book that will improve the shooting for me or those I coach, but I still think you can learn snippets and reading something written in a different way can clarify things that were perhaps a bit vague or unclear before.
Rob.
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:52 am
by RobStubbs
I've received my copy of the book and at first glance it seems mixed. There's clearly some very useful stuff in there but there appears to be a few odd bits which are perhaps less than helpful, and whilst I won't say 'wrong' there are certainly bits that go against conventional wisdom.
The other thing I didn't notice as much of was the 'why'. So it's great showing pictures of athletes shooting, all in different positions, but there didn't appear to be much as to why they are (or might be) adopting such a stance.
I need to have a full read of the book to properly evaluate it and make some notes which I hope to do over the next week or two.
Rob.
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 3:21 am
by Ulrich Eichstädt
RobStubbs wrote:there are certainly bits that go against conventional wisdom.
That's sometimes the reason why some shooters are more successful than others... ;)
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:04 am
by RobStubbs
Ulrich Eichstädt wrote:RobStubbs wrote:there are certainly bits that go against conventional wisdom.
That's sometimes the reason why some shooters are more successful than others... ;)
Sure, and it's equally the reason some shooters are less successful than others. The key is making sound decisions based on a detailed understanding of the fundamentals of the position and technique.
Rob.
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:46 pm
by pilkguns
We have 25 copies in stock, well about 19 with pre-orders......
please call or email the office, do not PM from this board.
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:53 pm
by Sa-tevo
18. I bought one since Ulrich is on the cover. And there are pictures of how to point the shooty thing at the target thing.
No place but up from here.
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:30 am
by Fortitudo Dei
I bought one since Ulrich is on the cover.
However the publishers were probably hoping that it would be the photo of Olena Kostevych that would grab people's attention! Interestingly, it's not the only front cover she has recently appeared on...
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:35 pm
by seamaster
Got the book from Pilk. Worth every penny of $90.
So much more than just looking at the front sight.