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Hi

Went to my usual optician today to see about getting a lens made up for my pistol shooting spec's (Champion) but they couldn't help. Anyone recommend an outlet that caters for shooting glasses? I'm in the Liverpool area.

Many thanks

TommyH

Phone around for a more capable/accomodating shop. It ain't rocket science. Most buy from a distributor anyway.

You might also ask your fellow shooters.

I can make you a lens.

$45 delivered to the UK.

What diameter is it, and can you send me your prescription?

By the way, have you adjusted the prescription for shooting, or are you trying to order a distance vision lens?

Art Neergaard
ShootingSight LLC
www.shootingsight.com
shootingsight@nuvox.net

TommyH wrote:Hi

Went to my usual optician today to see about getting a lens made up for my pistol shooting spec's (Champion) but they couldn't help. Anyone recommend an outlet that caters for shooting glasses? I'm in the Liverpool area.

Many thanks

TommyH

Any optician can make a lens up for you. All you need to do is supply them the lens holder for your glasses. I use a guy local to me (in Hertfordshire) but I know of people who have used specsavers or boots. The important thing is to make sure they get the prescription correct for shooting - I always take my pistol along with me especially for a first consultation - but do make sure they are OK with that first !

As spootingsight says you need to make sure the prescription is set to the right distance - which is to focus on the foresight, not the target, so it's similar to reading glasses.

Rob.

Pay someone enough money and they will make shooting glasses as fashionable as Elton Johns'.

It must have been fate that I 'must gone have to Specsavers' (specsaver's catch phrase for people outside of UK) and that the gentleman couldn't help me - his machine couldn't cut the rim of the lens for my Champion frame so I've probably saved myself some money.

If I can just add: the lens on my second hand frame is totally the wrong prescription for me if I were to look through it for general purpose viewing, however, if I bring the iris into play, an object at 10 metres is softly out of focus with a medium aperture, but I am able to count the hairs on the end of my finger. I would be happy to continue persisting with the old lens so long as there are no detrimental effects to my eye from the prescription of the old lens (I'm not sure how prescriptions work).

It might be that I don't have to replace the old lens?

Many thanks

TommyH

Strange they couldn't make the lens. The shop I do business with has 7 - 10 year old equipment for fitting lens to fashionable frames. I took a Champion large lens holder to them to get a +.25 lens to test. They estimated $25 and about five minutes. Five minutes later they handed me the lens, no charge. (In the past, the technicians and I have watched ISSF videos to see shooting glasses technology)

With a +.25, +.50 and a +.75, +.50 works best most of the time.

The lens is just a circle. I worked at an optician's in the early 70's and there was nothing to it then with mechanical equipment and probably less to it now if it is computerised. The guy you went to was either incompetent or has something against shooters. I would go ahead and try a couple more local opticians.

My local optician knocked one out fairly quickly for my Knobloch's, but it cost me as much as buying one from Champion's Choice anyway.

Roger

TommyH wrote:If I can just add: the lens on my second hand frame is totally the wrong prescription for me if I were to look through it for general purpose viewing, however, if I bring the iris into play, an object at 10 metres is softly out of focus with a medium aperture, but I am able to count the hairs on the end of my finger.

This is PERFECT for shooting.

Ask your doctor if there is any problem for you to use this lens.
Mention that is just for shooting (around two hours max in a competition), and that you need to see the front sight in focus and not the target.

I'm in Ramsey, Isle of Man and it is no problem. Our technician cuts lenses for my champions whenever I need them.

email: ramseyoptom@patwild.co.uk

I'm in Ramsey, Isle of Man and it is no problem. Our technician cuts lenses for my champions whenever I need them.

email: ramseyoptom@patwild.co.uk

rmca wrote:

TommyH wrote:If I can just add: the lens on my second hand frame is totally the wrong prescription for me if I were to look through it for general purpose viewing, however, if I bring the iris into play, an object at 10 metres is softly out of focus with a medium aperture, but I am able to count the hairs on the end of my finger.

This is PERFECT for shooting.

Ask your doctor if there is any problem for you to use this lens.
Mention that is just for shooting (around two hours max in a competition), and that you need to see the front sight in focus and not the target.

rmca, I'd prefer to go along this route, I'm sure it would be OK as the iris restricts me to a selective part of the lens and not the whole thing - which would conform to the specification of the prescription, I'll check with my Doctor as you suggest.

Thanks all

TommyH

rmca wrote:

TommyH wrote:If I can just add: the lens on my second hand frame is totally the wrong prescription for me if I were to look through it for general purpose viewing, however, if I bring the iris into play, an object at 10 metres is softly out of focus with a medium aperture, but I am able to count the hairs on the end of my finger.

This is PERFECT for shooting.

Ask your doctor if there is any problem for you to use this lens.
Mention that is just for shooting (around two hours max in a competition), and that you need to see the front sight in focus and not the target.

I'm afraid I totally disagree. The iris is no good with a wrong prescription, you'd be better using just the iris with no lens - unless the wrong prescription is closer to your prescription than your uncorrected eyes - if so throw both away.

The iris just closes down giving you a very large depth of field, which is obviously in your sweet spot. It also cuts down a lot of light making the iris of your eye open up to compensate. Just stick with it and visit another optician if your specsavers are really that useless.

Rob.

Rob

I have to confess, I didn't think to take the lens out, I thought it was there to serve a secondary purpose in stopping the iris from swinging through the frame as well as allowing me to see.

TommyH

RobStubbs wrote: I'm afraid I totally disagree.

Let me explain why I said it was perfect.

The objective of any shooting glasses, with or without iris, is to make you see the front sigth with as much defenition as you can, without forcing your eyes to much, for obvious reasons. Well, TommyH said he count the hairs on the end of his finger.
To me that's the defenition of what shooting glasses should do.

If it's the wrong prescrition for him, or if the is any problem for him to use this lens, I don't know, I'm not a doctor. That's why I wrote for him to seek advise form a doctor.

But I'll bet that that lens will be pretty close to what he would need for shooting.

Hope this helps.