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pistol lower body muscle usage

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:23 am
by seamaster
What is your pistol lower body muscle usage?

Do you tighten your gluteous maximus butt and thigh muslces?

Or do you just let it all "hang loose"?

One of my friend who shoots really, really well said tighten up those muscle stabilized his core/ stance.

It reminded me of the "reinforced" stance that some old Russian coach recommended in his writing. It also reminded me of the stance of Mikael Nestruev and Wang Yifu. Their stance has a strong mid/lower body reinforcement.

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:56 pm
by tirpassion
Yes, I do so.
The lower body muscles are tightened to let the upper part of the body rest on a strong/firm support/base.
tirpassion

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:45 am
by BobGee
It's not definitive but watching Celine Goberville at the Munich WC 2012 Sport Pistol Finals Duelling, I'd say that there's not much of her lower body that's tight while she's shooting. Her whole body language is relaxed. Got her a 52.3 too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZJ7fRUKRlk&feature=plcp

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:08 am
by jackh
Core strength.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_%28an ... f_the_core
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transversu ... nis_muscle

Transverse abs. Very important to posture. Must be in condition and trained to set when lifting, sitting straight, rising from a chair, and doing the Twist. It is not a body building at the gym thing. It is more subtle than that.

Lower body

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:06 pm
by luftskytter
Just a thought:

How many have tried shooting while sitting?
This "removes a variable from the equation".
Those who find this comfortable will find this secure and stable.
There will always be small movements and swaying that need correction, and eliminating these will reduce the burden of keeping the sights on target.

Then it remains to reduce these movements without breaking the rules.
It's not obvious that tense muscles will always be the most stable.
They may induce fatigue or tremor, and they may mask sensory feedback that enables you to make subtle corrections to posture and direction. What works for a couple of shots may not always be best for the duration of a long competition.

Re: Lower body

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:00 pm
by Spencer
luftskytter wrote:Just a thought:

How many have tried shooting while sitting?
This "removes a variable from the equation".
Those who find this comfortable will find this secure and stable.
There will always be small movements and swaying that need correction, and eliminating these will reduce the burden of keeping the sights on target.

Then it remains to reduce these movements without breaking the rules.
It's not obvious that tense muscles will always be the most stable.
They may induce fatigue or tremor, and they may mask sensory feedback that enables you to make subtle corrections to posture and direction. What works for a couple of shots may not always be best for the duration of a long competition.
There is sitting supported, and sutting unsupported - the outcomes are VERY different.
One of the 'exercises' we sometimes give able-bodied shooters to appreciate what the wheelies are doing is to have the AB shooter sit on a stool (no back) and keep their feet clear - most shooters will drop about 20 points in a 60-shot event..

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:59 pm
by Pat McCoy
Four great core exercises here: http://www.armyprt.com/special_conditio ... core.shtml

Deceptively simple looking, and only about 6 minutes a day.