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New ISSF finals format

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:02 am
by Joakim
At the ISSF General Assembly in London yesterday, the Executive Committee announced new rules for finals.
The ISSF Executive Committee and Council, which met in the last days here in London, also approved a set of new competition formats drafts for Rifle, Pistol and Shotgun Finals. The elimination system (for rifle and pistol) and duel system (for shotgun shooting) will be introduced for finals. Detailed final rules will be released in accordance with the respective ISSF Committees in the next months.
Does anyone know what this elimination system consists of? Man-to-man elimination? (Probably not, as that should be what the "duel system" means.) Something similar to the new RFP final? Something similar to the Top Gun system? Will the finals start from 0? Hit-and-miss, ordinary points, decimals?

Definitely a little curious (if that doesn't show) as I'm positively thrilled about a change being made, and at the same time positively nervous that it may very well be a change for the worse...

If there is "a set of new competition formats drafts" that has been approved, shouldn't these drafts be published somewhere? Or are they secret until the Rifle Committee and the Pistol Committee say something on the matter?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:13 am
by JamesH
I'd like to know who dreams this stuff up, and why they have to keep changing it.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 am
by Dave IRL
Agreed. It's starting to look like indecisive children playing with something, and that always means a broken toy. Absolutely nothing wrong with the system as it stands.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:23 am
by ghostrip
Unfortunately everything is about TV these days. In my mind they try to help the last shooter of the final to have a chance winning the gold. More drama, better ratings, more commercials, more money.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:43 am
by RobStubbs
It will almost certainly be what they are using for rapid fire finals. Six (8) people into the final, fire n-shots, worst shooter drops out, repeat until n=1 left. The downside is they start with a clean slate in the finals and in RF it's a simple hit / miss on a area the size of the 9.4 or 9.7 ring. Works OK on electronics....

I'm not a great fan of it personally.

Rob.

finals format

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:51 pm
by Albert B
I do nit know the details but Rob is correct; I heard about the procedure some months ago from the trainer/coach of Peter Hellenbrand, the Dutch air rifle shooter competing in the coming Olympics.
As said, he who enters as number 8 in the final has a good chance of winning when he keeps his nerves under control...

Albert B (The Netherlands)