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Post Front Sight for Standing?

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:04 pm
by Barry
Carl Bernosky just tied the long-standing Highpower Standing record of 200-15x. Carl said he uses a post front sight for standing. Is this a common practice in the International smallbore/air rifle world?

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:35 pm
by sbrmike
A post isn't common at all in smallbore or Air. Larger apertures are common in Offhand though.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:39 pm
by Richard H
There are a couple of very high level ISSF Small bore guys that use posts. Right now their names escape me.

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:06 pm
by xnoncents
Rajmond Debevec is reputed to shoot with a post. He is also considered eccentric for this choice. He is however the world record holder, so judgement should not come from mortals.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:57 am
by RobStubbs
xnoncents wrote:Rajmond Debevec is reputed to shoot with a post. He is also considered eccentric for this choice. He is however the world record holder, so judgement should not come from mortals.
Just because it works for him, doesn't mean it would work for you. There's a reason he's the only one doing it and it isn't because no one else has tried it.

Rob.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:06 am
by justadude
Gary Anderson also shot with a post.

It might be easy to label the few successful shooters who shot with posts as eccentric but given the performances they turned in it is difficult to argue with the results.

Clearly for some people, the post front sight works. I will say that both Gary and Rajmond were young men when they had their success with the post. I equate this to young eyes. Now, there have also been advances in corrective glasses technology and rear iris/filter setups since Rajmond set his records and the equpment Gary had to use was positively stone age compared to today.

There might be something to having young eyes or eyes that are made to be young to being successful with a post. If I were going to tinker with one I would also like to talk with a pistol shooter to get their thoughts on post width and where to hold that post.

Consider this: post inserts are pretty cheap, I would not be surprised if you asked around if you could not just find some at your local club for free. Get a few widths, drop them in and shoot with them for a while. (more than just one or two sessions) After a few sessions you will be able to see if this is something you can wrap your eyes and brain around.

Messing around with a few post inserts is way cheaper than a few other less than successful experiments I have tried. (They were brilliant ideas on paper, just not so much in practice.) Give it a try, if you don't like it it is easy to go back.

Cheers,

'Dude

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:42 am
by 1813Anschutz
I use a Post Front on my air rifle simply because it replicates my High power rifles so the sight picture is the same. Doesn't work for everyone however.
On my 1813, I am still using aperture front's...mainly because I don't have any other post fronts to put into it.
Lazy of me, I know.
Randy

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:52 am
by Eric U
When Rajmond won the 3x40 bronze medal in Beijing, he was pretty well past 40, so I don't really think that age has much to do with it, and he was in his late 30's in 2000 when he won the gold. Technology hasn't progressed that much in the ISSF world since that time...

Rajmond Debevec is the most successful 3p shooter of all time with his post front sight...but has never won a prone world cup. I just don't think you can be as precise with a post as with aperture sights. That doesn't mean you can't shoot very well with a post though.

I experimented with a post front sight when I was in college. Because of my high-power background I though I would do well with it, but it wasn't quite what I wanted. Maybe I should have given it more than a couple of weeks? With a post front sight, the perceived motion is a little less than with an aperture so squeezing the trigger is easier. That might make shooting a post front sight in a standing final appealing. There isn't as much to line up either...just touch the top of the post to the bottom of the bull and squeeze...

Eric U

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:12 am
by Tim S
Eric U wrote:Rajmond Debevec is the most successful 3p shooter of all time with his post front sight...but has never won a prone world cup. I just don't think you can be as precise with a post as with aperture sights. That doesn't mean you can't shoot very well with a post though.

Eric U
True, but he has won several WC silver and bronze medals, silver at the 2002 World Championships, and two weeks ago shot 598 + 104.8 to become European Champion.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:41 am
by tsokasn
Speaking of the last European Champion,I've been trying to find a link from ISSF tv without any success...

Anyone...

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:15 pm
by Tim S
tsokasn wrote:Speaking of the last European Champion,I've been trying to find a link from ISSF tv without any success...

Anyone...
I believe that the European Championships aren't organised by the ISSF. However footage from the finals is on Youtube.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:16 pm
by tsokasn
Got it,thank's!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:44 pm
by mobarron
Does anyone make post inserts for a 22mm front sight?