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new rear sight for 853/953?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:23 am
by GaryN
With the new rifles and sights on the market, and with the Gamo rear sight gone, what is currently the best (reasonably priced) rear sight for the Daisy 853 and 953 for casual competition?
I remember people at one time were recommending the Crossman sight, but the pics I've seen of the Air Arms, Crossman, Daisy Avanti, and Weihrauch HW50 Diopter Sight, and they sure look the same, and interestingly...they are the same price (at Pyramid Air). So are they all the same problematic Chinese made sight?
Any word on the AirForce Edge rear sight. Although by the price difference w and w/o the rear sight, the rear sight is $130. And that would be a bit high for me.
thanks
Gary
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:20 pm
by jhmartin
I don't know if it is any real big secret, but at Pyramyd Air, the "Crosman Precision Diopter Sights", P/N: CR-G397T-011 is a Rear and front sight set that when I ordered them in March '08 were a genuine GAMO set of sights
At $60, a real sweet deal
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:58 pm
by GaryN
Thanks, I just place my order at Pyramid.
Pyramid is out
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:19 pm
by GaryN
Pyramid is out of the Crossman sights.
The big question is what will the backorder sights be Gamo or the problematic Chinese sights.
Sights
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:21 pm
by 2650 Plus
I have ordered three sets from champions choice and all were satisfactory . I can't quarentee others but mine were just fine. Good Shooting Bill Horton
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:13 pm
by jhmartin
Hmmm .... how long did they say the BO might be?
Are you gonna be our guinea pig?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:06 pm
by Guest
Bill, did you get the real Gamos or the Chinese Daisy ones?
Did Daisy improve the Chinese copies after the initial problems?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:09 pm
by GaryN
Pyramid did not indicate how long before the back order might be filled. Although their site says expected in stock 7/18/08.
So we shall see what arrives from them.
Sights
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:45 am
by 2650 Plus
For Guest I'm not . sure what they are but there doesn't seem to be any backlash and the clicks are precice . The sights are being sold as Air Arms Products with no markings on them. They are being delivered with the Air Arms S200. Good Shooting Bill Horton
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:30 pm
by GaryN
Latest I have is Pyramid is expecting the sights to arrive end of the month, which is in a few days. Then I'll see what they ship to me.
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:11 pm
by GaryN
The sights from Pyramid arrived, and they are indeed GAMO sights. :-)
They are packaged in boxes with "made in Spain" on them.
I don't know how the Chinese made ones feel, but the detents on the elevation and windage knobs feel solid.
They were ordered as "Crossman Precision Diopter Sights" part number CR-G397T-011
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:53 pm
by jhmartin
From my experience.....
"Older" Gamos have an oval on top with a "Gamo" in the oval
"Newer" (just as good) Gamo's have the oval, but no lettering in them
The Chinese sights have no oval at all
My guess is you got the newer Gamos ... great deal, huh?
One day I'll get photos of all three types posted
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:36 am
by GaryN
re the oval
Did you mean when looking down from the top, it is on the bottom rail that attaches to the rifle, and forward of the vertical sight mechanism.
If so, then yes, mine is an oval w/o any text in it.
I think I'm happy, now that I have a decent sight to put on my 953.
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:06 am
by jhmartin
Exactly ... congrats
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:48 pm
by GaryN
I just noticed, Pyramid raised the price up to $100 for the Crossman Gamo sights.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:15 pm
by jhmartin
Well it was probably about time ... They must have gone thru their stock and re-ordered.
Two years ago I was paying $95 for just the rear sight from Brenzovich. When I found out about the Pyramid price (here on TT) I ordered 8 sets it was such a good deal.
I've got an 887 coming from Daisy next week (attention all ... prices of those go up next month) so we'll see if the stock china sights are getting any better.
I wonder if anyone has yet to fire an AirForce Edge and done any testing on their rear sight? $100 for a gamo, versus $149 for the edge sight ..... may need a look
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:16 pm
by GaryN
With the $60 to $100 price increase, I should have bought more than 2 of the Crossman/Gamo sights, but 2 is all I need...for now.
I wonder who makes the Air Arms rear sight?
That one is still $60.
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:08 pm
by jhmartin
Maybe you could have them take photo of the top???
My guess is that it's the china sight... the only one that I know they had that was a Gamo was that Crosman combo
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:52 pm
by GaryN
I forgot about this thread.
Here is a pix of the gen-2 Gamo sight.
The red outline shows the oval without Gamo embossed in it.