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Feinwerkbau aw93 recoil absorber VS Izh-hr-30.

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:07 pm
by LukeP
Reading online seems fwb aw93 lack of many things in front of his mother izh-hr-30. Several generic non detailed differences are addressed to feinwerkbau.

I'm wondering if the recoil sistem is different.
Below a pic of izh-hr-30 recoil part, last pics is a russian derived similar to aw93 ones.
Anyone else can post detailed pics of fwb aw93 for comparison?


Great shooting,
LukeP.

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:29 am
by Tycho
Don't have my AW93 here, but as far as my memory goes, it has the spring in front and lacks the breaking system, rest is similar. Just checked out my KhR-31, looks the same as the -30, espcially the rear buffer, only much lighter. Is that your -30?

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:29 am
by LukeP
Unfortunately pics are on the net... ;(

I found this pics on russian forum, also Ruig was posting there. http://talks.guns.ru/forummessage/16/214493-2.html

From what i understood with google translator, it's ammortized sistem with screw regulation (lacking in aw93), and they talk about testing spring for use with selected ammo . The forum indicates also other minor fitting differences.

Steyr lp10 absorber's mass, don't have a similar retaining system and spring?

P.S. I'm evaluating new standard pistol.
There is a special offer for used mg2 from factory: mechanically renewed and reconditioned and with personalized grip 850 euro.
For comparision aw93 with factory grip is 1700 euro.
I'm searching information deciding what is the best one for me, surfing the net i found that pics.

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:16 am
by jipe
LukeP wrote: P.S. I'm evaluating new standard pistol.
There is a special offer for used mg2 from factory: mechanically renewed and reconditioned and with personalized grip 850 euro.
For comparision aw93 with factory grip is 1700 euro.
I'm searching information deciding what is the best one for me, surfing the net i found that pics.
MG2 and AW93 are two essentially very different pistols. I would expect that if you like the feeling of one of them you won't like the other => I think it is very important to try both to see which one fits for you.

For the price point of view, the AW93 is one of the most expensive.

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:49 am
by Tycho
There is another set of pictures in that discussion thread, of the KhR-86. That one's absorber weight very much looks like the FWB's. I have an article about Kahidurov's pistols somewhere, where the author writes that the AW93 is based on the KhR-79 / KhR-82 design, so that could be about right. If anybody ever gets his hands on of those pistols, call me :-D

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:58 pm
by Walter
Here's the AW93 weight.

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The larger absorber piston is hollow, with a guide rod in the center. the guide rod aligns the inner spring.
There is a metal plate under the piston which allows it to travel in its channel smoothly.

There is no adjustability to either the front or rear absorber springs, but a recoil spring can be cut down and used to replace the front spring pins, thereby allowing adjustment by removing the front screws and replacing the springs with a length of your choosing.

Feinwerkbau made the large piston spring and the front pair of springs work so they have similar compression characteristics under recoil.

Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:38 pm
by ruig
I have the same dilemma since winter... what pistol to buy? For rapid fire & standard pistol (150'/20'/10').
I have compared some information-sources, which i trust in. I have visited in third time WC-Munich, i have visited Arms-Exibition in Nuernberg (IWA). I have spoken & seen.

I have ordered AW93 for me. Ok, not so good clone/copy, but it is only modern sport pistol, which we can buy, with magazine in grip (+balance, +barrel length). I have hesitated between AW93, MG2RF and Pardini-E (exaclty in this order). I have ordered AW93, but i still want MG2 as second pistol. May be later...

P.S.: Today I could not understand price-policy between MG and Resellers.
If look at price-list of Gehmann (official reseller), we could see:
MG2 ~ 1200 Euro
MG2RF ~ 1600 Euro
Conversion kit MG2->MG2RF ~ 400 Euro
Have You noticed the difference??
Of course - it makes sense to buy MG2 + Conversation kit = You get "spare parts" at least for FREE! You could modify MG2... without extra price. I dont understand this, but it is cool ;)