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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:06 pm
by David Levene
Jim E wrote:No extra fuss with CO2 over comprssed air for the experienced person
My apologies, I thought it was you who had mentioned bleeding a cylinder to empty it before re-filling and then having to use scales.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:14 pm
by Jim E
Only for rookies like you ... the pro's handled with ease.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:38 pm
by Richard H
RobStubbs wrote:
Jim E wrote:With CO2 you need just one tank there sporto! So easy for the adult airgunner.
For compressed air you can get away without one. Most clubs and ranges have compressed air if you run out. If your CO2 runs out then you are in real trouble. Like David I travel to comps and I take a pump for emergencies, in case they don't have CA.

Rob.
Well maybe in England but few if any clubs in Canada supply CA, some do have CO2. Remember this is an international forum and things are different all over.

The only matches in Canada that have had CA are the Grand Prix and the Nationals (they may have only had a hand pump).

It seemed all the clubs we went to in Germany had CA.

I too travel to big matches with a pump, even when they do supply CA you might not get a full fill so I can top my cylinder off.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:04 am
by RobStubbs
Richard,
My point was that generally air is more readily available than CO2. That appears to be the case, certainly at bigger comps, with your experiences in Canada perhaps being an exception.

Rob.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:17 pm
by Jim E
* CO2 is more efficient (lots more shots per fill over PCP) and thus there is little to no need to have all that 'spare air' cluttering ranges and competitions with those huge tanks.

* Fill two cylinders and your good to go for several competitions.

* Put a 1.5 lbs. pony bottle in the glove box if your feeling insecure.

* Paint ball stores are everywhere in the USA so there's never a problem finding checap and cheerful CO2 refills.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:32 pm
by Richard H
RobStubbs wrote:Richard,
My point was that generally air is more readily available than CO2. That appears to be the case, certainly at bigger comps, with your experiences in Canada perhaps being an exception.

Rob.
Mr Stubbs my point is that one might want to find out what goes on in their local area rather than take advice from someone a world away ans make purchasing decisions based on it.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:08 pm
by David Levene
Richard H wrote:Mr Stubbs my point is that one might want to find out what goes on in their local area rather than take advice from someone a world away ans make purchasing decisions based on it.
That is exactly why my first post on this topic started "Reading this thread reminds me exactly of why I now shoot CA...".

As Rob quite correctly pointed out, here in the UK and generally in Europe, if you are at an airgun range then there will probably be a way of re-filling CA pistol cylinders.

The same cannot be said of CO2.

Whilst the availability of bulk tanks for home use is probably the same for CA and CO2, I can think of no earthly reason why I would want to take on the extra hassle of chilling CO2 cylinders and then weighing them. As CA is so readily available here it would be as senseless as buying cheap pellets, sizing them and then batching them by weight. If you cannot buy quality pellets then you may have to do it, but if the good ones are available then I doubt many would go down the size and weigh route.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:32 pm
by RobStubbs
Richard H wrote: Mr Stubbs my point is that one might want to find out what goes on in their local area rather than take advice from someone a world away ans make purchasing decisions based on it.
Mr H,
I never gave advice on what to buy it was merely a general observation, end of. You should take time out to read what people are actually saying.

Rob.

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:10 pm
by Richard H
RobStubbs wrote:
Richard H wrote: Mr Stubbs my point is that one might want to find out what goes on in their local area rather than take advice from someone a world away ans make purchasing decisions based on it.
Mr H,
I never gave advice on what to buy it was merely a general observation, end of. You should take time out to read what people are actually saying.

Rob.
Whatever.