25m RFP Proposed changes

If you wish to make a donation to this forum's operation , it would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/targettalk?yours=true

Moderators: pilkguns, m1963, David Levene, Spencer, Richard H

Forum rules
If you wish to make a donation to this forum's operation , it would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/targettalk?yours=true
User avatar
Azmodan
Posts: 427
Joined: Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:00 pm
Location: Romania

Re: 25m RFP Proposed changes

Post by Azmodan »

any update on this?
Airpistol: Feinwerkbau P8X
STP: Pardini SP
CFP: Pardini HP
Freepistol: TOZ-35
PPC: CZ Shadow 2
PCC: Nova Modul CTS9
BR50: CZ 457 LRP
Peter Lovett
Posts: 16
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:27 am
Location: Hobart, Australia

Re: 25m RFP Proposed changes

Post by Peter Lovett »

john bickar wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:44 pm Having been involved in this sport for going on three decades, ISSF seems hell-bent on destroying Rapid Fire Pistol.

"Start from zero" in the finals is straight garbage.

"...presenting results in a more friendly way for a better understanding and more exciting final competition" - give me a freakin' break. That's a mealy-mouthed way of saying that it's going to be watered down. Again.
John, are you suggesting that the RF competition at an event such as the Olympics should only consist of the present qualification stage? If so, then the sport will disappear. The current final round of 6 competitors shooting over 8 series on a hit or miss basis is easily followed by a non-shooter. Should it be scored on top of the qualification round then it would exclude some of the final competitors from having any chance of success. My understanding is that at present to qualify for an ISSF final in RF, you need a score of at least 280 or better. That would mean that those competitors who only just qualified would have no chance of overhauling someone who qualified 290 or better. I stand to be corrected.
Grippy
Posts: 94
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2022 3:05 pm

Re: 25m RFP Proposed changes

Post by Grippy »

If someone gained a significant advantage in qualification I don't see how it's wrong that they benefit from that. This idea that we need to make shooting more "interesting" by having more volatile finals irritates me to no end.

It's a sport about consistency and endurance... but the moment it gets televised (once every 4 years... probably in the summary segment) we throw all that out the window to present more excitement for an audience that barely cares?

Shooting is a sport for participants. I hate this mindset that we warp it for the benefit the 10minutes coverage it gets at the Olympics. The extra absurd thing is that the most likely people to watch shooting are people that do participate. And to them the ever changing finals formats are actually less recognizable than the qualification would be.

If you ask someone "what's your record?" no one gives you their best finals score. Everyone considers "qualification" the main event and finals some oddity that gets tacked on once in a while. At least over here.
JamesH
Posts: 792
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:26 am
Location: Australia

Re: 25m RFP Proposed changes

Post by JamesH »

Actually people are starting to pay more attention to finals scores.

Shooting is/was the oddball sport in that qualification scores are added to final scores to determine the results.
100m runners etc don't add up their times from the heats to their final run, its the final which matters.

The only chance shooting has is to make it mildly interesting and the new finals do that.
30 People in a line blasting away with the total tallied at the end is completely unwatchable and has no hope.
M-1903A4
Posts: 30
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2024 11:10 am

Re: 25m RFP Proposed changes

Post by M-1903A4 »

Finding a 25 meter range in my neck of the woods was impossible, so I had to jerry rig something up, which is not ideal. Standard PIstol is much easier to shoot in a number of areas including commercial ranges. It also translates well for a number of Bullseye Shooters that could adapt to the Standard Pistol format.
Post Reply