High Quality Chinese Standard and Rapid Fire pistols

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Leon
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High Quality Chinese Standard and Rapid Fire pistols

Post by Leon »

What do I have here? Does anybody know?

I've just acquired 2 Chinese made target pistols. One (shown below) is a Standard Pistol and the other is a .22 short Rapid Fire Pistol.

Both look unfired and both are made to a very high-quality and exhibit exemplary fit & finish.

The SP is marked BS-01 and has the serial number of 880004 - which I think means that it was made in 1988 and is the 4th pistol.

It looks very similar to the pistol used by the brilliant Chen Ying in her successful quest for Olympic Gold glory.

So, if anyone had further information, including any documentation or disassembly instructions, please post it here.
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william
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Re: And what do I have here?

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It looks very much like a Chinese knock off of a Khaidurov design.

Where's Igor when we need him?
Leon
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Re: And what do I have here?

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william wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:21 pm It looks very much like a Chinese knock off of a Khaidurov design.

Where's Igor when we need him?
Funny you should say Khaidurov. I've got a Khaidurov KhR30 as well ( at least I will have when I can pry it out of the hands of the Australian Customs). Pictures below -
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stephen_maly
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Re: And what do I have here?

Post by stephen_maly »

Actually, the Chinese pistol looks more like an improved Margolin (no relation to a Khaidurov pistol at all). The bar toward the fron the slide gives that away. That bar is likely what holds the slide in place. As well, the safety on the left is found on a Margolin (not a Khiadurov; which has a grip safety). Don't be fooled by the profile of the gun. The last person I knew who wanted to sell Chinese competition guns was not able to get them, since production still followed the command economy principle. Very few of those guns were made, and they didn't make them according to any demand schedule.
Leon
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Re: And what do I have here?

Post by Leon »

"Chinese competition guns was not able to get them, since production still followed the command economy principle. Very few of those guns were made"

These 2 target pistols have been in Australia for decades. Some guy wanted to import them for resale here and the factory sent these 2 - and I don't know what happened next, but nothing ever came of it... This SP has a serial number of 880004 which, I think, means that it was made in 1988 and it was the 4th one. So there should be at least 3 others floating around. Maybe with the Chinese Olympic squads?
BobGee
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Re: And what do I have here?

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stephen_maly wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:39 pm Actually, the Chinese pistol looks more like an improved Margolin (no relation to a Khaidurov pistol at all). The bar toward the fron the slide gives that away. That bar is likely what holds the slide in place. As well, the safety on the left is found on a Margolin (not a Khiadurov; which has a grip safety).
Leon brought the pistol to the Club yesterday for a show and tell - not shot. I endorse his description of the fit and finish.

I too think that the transverse cotter bar might be part of the take-down process. There is also a spring loaded tab on the underside of the slide which might be the first step to take-down. Leon is understandably reluctant to trial-and-error the process given the non-existence of spare parts, especially airborne springs.

The lever on the LHS of the pistol above the trigger is a cocking lever, allegedly for dry firing so you don’t have to keep racking the slide. Good idea if one uses a bit of old inner-tube at the breach-face to protect said face and firing pin.

Igor mentioned that Chen Ying used a "Dong Feng5" (DF5) for her Olympic gold in 2008 but there are no markings on the pistol that match that name. However, it looks identical to the pistol in the two photos Igor posted from that event some time ago (2009?), reposted by SamEEE towards the end of: viewtopic.php?t=51269.

Bob
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