Wrist-hugging pistol grip
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Wrist-hugging pistol grip
Is this wrist-hugging grip permissible in ISSF/Olympic comp? https://youtu.be/Nw1I5MjkQQk?t=34m15s
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I learned many years ago that you cannot be 100% sure of the legality of a grip from a photograph.
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The Pardini grips I have seen in competition have the palm supported but not the wrist.
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The Pardini grips I have seen in competition have the palm supported but not the wrist. Here is a somewhat sharper pic version.
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As I said, photographs can give the wrong impression.
Looking at the stickers, I doubt whether that many EC officers will all have got it wrong.
Looking at the stickers, I doubt whether that many EC officers will all have got it wrong.
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This is the correct grip that supports the palm only (not the wrist), as far as I can tell from a photograph.
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In my understanding of the rules, the black line in the accompanying illustration delineates the wrist joint in which no part of the grip can go beyond. Gort
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In that case this pic shows a beyond the black line (wrist) support grip configuration, or not? Screen shot shown grabbed from here: https://youtu.be/qBqJhOKH0dw?t=13m30s
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OK, I'll say it. IMO, the grip in question is illegal (beyond the wrist). And I don't care how many stickers it sports, or the status the stickers imply.
I think the picture below is being generous to the shooter, too.
I think the picture below is being generous to the shooter, too.
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I agree that it does not look legit.
This pic (below) shows what the legit grip and wrist support ought to look like, despite the heavy customization. Source: https://youtu.be/7IXdx13v4mo?t=22m52s
This pic (below) shows what the legit grip and wrist support ought to look like, despite the heavy customization. Source: https://youtu.be/7IXdx13v4mo?t=22m52s
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Check the last couple of posts on this topic: http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php ... e&start=40
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Unfortunately many people try to game the system (cheat). Rules are in place to keep the the playing field level. When officials are not vigilant on rule enforcement the system breaks down. Things like the dimension box or the trigger pull are easier to regulate, they are pass/fail. Regulation of the wrist joint location is more ambiguous. Officials need more anatomical training (of the wrist) and enforcement mandates from the ISSF. Gort
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Gort wrote:Unfortunately many people try to game the system (cheat). Rules are in place to keep the the playing field level. When officials are not vigilant on rule enforcement the system breaks down. Things like the dimension box or the trigger pull are easier to regulate, they are pass/fail. Regulation of the wrist joint location is more ambiguous. Officials need more anatomical training (of the wrist) and enforcement mandates from the ISSF. Gort
It will never happen. Especially if the top 30 shooters get DQ. And I dont mean Dairy Queen either.
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would a fellow competitor need to challenge the grip?
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I suspect that the grip in question is "legal" when held out straight. In the raised shooting position, the action is tilted downward relative to the wrist. The bottom of the grip is pivoting to the rear and now it's questionable. It's certainly borderline, but it's hard to see exactly where the wrist "breaks" in the photo.
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The only real way to check at equiptment control is to get the shooter to fit the pistol into his
hand in a shooting position and see if the wrist can be tilted up and down to a full range of movement.
If the wrist is supported little or no downward angle below the normal firing angle can be achieved.
hand in a shooting position and see if the wrist can be tilted up and down to a full range of movement.
If the wrist is supported little or no downward angle below the normal firing angle can be achieved.
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This seems to have passed inspection, from here: https://youtu.be/VlXEsdjGVNs?t=19m51s
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This one as well: https://youtu.be/I89rcMvytH8?t=9m35s
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Crete wrote:This seems to have passed inspection, from here: https://youtu.be/VlXEsdjGVNs?t=19m51s
Geeze!!!! that looks like a free pistol grip!!
NO WAY that should of passed. EC and the competitor do not pass the smell test on this one.
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I have a large collection of curio grip pics, but I'm sure that you've got the big picture already.
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