Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
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practice practices?
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Re: practice practices?
: Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
My coach made all of us a progress sheet. We have a category titled "10 shots eight or better" and then there are ten blank spaces for him to sign in. Once all the ten spaces are filled we move on to the "15 shots eight or better" there are ten of those. Next comes "20 shots eight or better" This ends at 30 shots eight or better" After that we progress to the nine ring. "10 shots nine or better" so on until we reach "15 shots nine or better" The very last box in "5 shots in the ten" This has fifteeen spaces. Once we complete the progress chart we are guaranteed to be shooting at least in the 540's in previous years all who have finished the progress chart have a personal best of a high 550 and average in the high 540 and low 550.
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My coach made all of us a progress sheet. We have a category titled "10 shots eight or better" and then there are ten blank spaces for him to sign in. Once all the ten spaces are filled we move on to the "15 shots eight or better" there are ten of those. Next comes "20 shots eight or better" This ends at 30 shots eight or better" After that we progress to the nine ring. "10 shots nine or better" so on until we reach "15 shots nine or better" The very last box in "5 shots in the ten" This has fifteeen spaces. Once we complete the progress chart we are guaranteed to be shooting at least in the 540's in previous years all who have finished the progress chart have a personal best of a high 550 and average in the high 540 and low 550.
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Re: practice practices?
I like what Matt has in his response. Tracking your nine ring percentage is good. IMHO, you should not keep track of anything outside the nine ring (no, "this many eights," etc.). Focus on those that hit center - forget the rest. Try to find out the details of your good shots. How did that shot settle? What was I thinking? How did the trigger progress? What was my vision focused on? I don't know your definition of, "little bit of dryfire," but again IMHO dry fire is where you should learn and reinforce proper trigger operation, and live fire is where you test your learned skill. If the test shows good results, practice those results. As for the boring side, you can try some mind games, like seeing if you can totally remove the very center of the target, or try to see how many tens in a row you can shoot. Keep track of the number, even across targets. As to the goal you stated, I would suggest putting a solid value instead of just increasing. Make it 70% maybe and then increase the value as you catch up with the old one.
Take Care,
EdH
: Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
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Take Care,
EdH
: Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
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Re: practice practices?
If what you are doing is "practicing" (reinforcing your existing technique), capping rounds will do.
If what you are trying to do is improve upon your technique, then I think what you want to do is train, not practice. Capping rounds is fine for practice; not fine for training.
I'm not just being a wise**s here. There is a difference. Perhaps you need to think about what exactly are you trying to accomplish with your time.
Steve Swartz
p.s. "Capping Rounds" is a phrase used to describe live or dry fire at a target under match conditions, whether structured or unstructured, with no specific BEHAVIORAL outcome to be achieved. "Shooting a Ten" or some such is NOT a behavioral outcome.
: Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
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If what you are trying to do is improve upon your technique, then I think what you want to do is train, not practice. Capping rounds is fine for practice; not fine for training.
I'm not just being a wise**s here. There is a difference. Perhaps you need to think about what exactly are you trying to accomplish with your time.
Steve Swartz
p.s. "Capping Rounds" is a phrase used to describe live or dry fire at a target under match conditions, whether structured or unstructured, with no specific BEHAVIORAL outcome to be achieved. "Shooting a Ten" or some such is NOT a behavioral outcome.
: Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
leslieswartz-at-erinet.com.42798.42787
Re: practice practices?
There is a book of collected shooting drills out there, if it's of interest:
http://www.aball-ypi.com/shootord.htm
mark.dennehy-at-cs.tcd.ie.42801.42793
http://www.aball-ypi.com/shootord.htm
mark.dennehy-at-cs.tcd.ie.42801.42793
Re: practice practices?
: There is a book of collected shooting drills out there, if it's of interest:
: http://www.aball-ypi.com/shootord.htm
not familiar with this book. Could this book have helpful tips for all disciplines or as it seems to imply mainly for the biathalon sport:??
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: http://www.aball-ypi.com/shootord.htm
not familiar with this book. Could this book have helpful tips for all disciplines or as it seems to imply mainly for the biathalon sport:??
.42806.42801
Re: practice practices?
: : Would appreciate some pros and cons on methods of practice please... I typically shoot about 60-80 shots/day. A little bit of dryfire also. I had/have been doing individual targets (10 shots) and keeping score after the session. Recently tried shooting 20 at one target and evaluating the percentage of shots in the 9 or better category. Over several of these targets (not really scored), I have been consistently at 65% nines or better with 3 8's, 2 7's and a (ugh) white one. My thought is to work to a goal of increasing the percentage of 9+ hits with each practice and letting the score take care of itself. Please help me focus a good routine. I see progress, but as always, patience is on the wane and I want to get much better much faster. TIA. Craig
: My coach made all of us a progress sheet. We have a category titled "10 shots eight or better" and then there are ten blank spaces for him to sign in. Once all the ten spaces are filled we move on to the "15 shots eight or better" there are ten of those. Next comes "20 shots eight or better" This ends at 30 shots eight or better" After that we progress to the nine ring. "10 shots nine or better" so on until we reach "15 shots nine or better" The very last box in "5 shots in the ten" This has fifteeen spaces. Once we complete the progress chart we are guaranteed to be shooting at least in the 540's in previous years all who have finished the progress chart have a personal best of a high 550 and average in the high 540 and low 550.
Thanks for the "plan"....I like the concept and the tiers of results......will do it. Thanks again. Craig
alance2002-at-yahoo.com.42815.42793
: My coach made all of us a progress sheet. We have a category titled "10 shots eight or better" and then there are ten blank spaces for him to sign in. Once all the ten spaces are filled we move on to the "15 shots eight or better" there are ten of those. Next comes "20 shots eight or better" This ends at 30 shots eight or better" After that we progress to the nine ring. "10 shots nine or better" so on until we reach "15 shots nine or better" The very last box in "5 shots in the ten" This has fifteeen spaces. Once we complete the progress chart we are guaranteed to be shooting at least in the 540's in previous years all who have finished the progress chart have a personal best of a high 550 and average in the high 540 and low 550.
Thanks for the "plan"....I like the concept and the tiers of results......will do it. Thanks again. Craig
alance2002-at-yahoo.com.42815.42793