does anyone have "clothing measuring" tools calibrated?

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Ltdave
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does anyone have "clothing measuring" tools calibrated?

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one my daughter's junior team member moved on to the Kentucky Wildcats last year...

they just (maybe not JUST got) got Hi-tek shooting suits maybe this year. or last...

he's in colorado springs for the junior olympics and he was told his pants werent legal at the waist band. im not sure what he told his coach on the phone about having to cut the waist band off a $1,000 pair of pants but he was sent to shoot so he was going to cut on them...

whats the chance that a highly regarded and accepted manufacturer of shooting clothing not making clothing to ISSF/Olympic standards vs measuring tools not being properly calibrated?

in dont know if the suit is EVOMIX or EVOTOP but i cant figure out how his suit couldnt pass muster...
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Actually it's quite common. That's one reason that they have have equipment check. According to ISSF and USAS Rules, measuring equipment is checked to make sure it's accurate
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Ltdave wrote: he was told his pants werent legal at the waist band. (...)
whats the chance that a highly regarded and accepted manufacturer of shooting clothing not making clothing to ISSF/Olympic standards vs measuring tools not being properly calibrated?
Very unlikely.

If the problem is the waistband, it's probably measurments. So, it's very unlikely a ruler will be out of calibration.
It's probably fitting him higher than allowed by the rulebook or is thicker than allowed.

ISSF 7.5.5.1 (...)The top of the trousers must not fit or be worn higher on the body than 50 mm above the crest of the hipbone.
(...) If the trousers have a waistband, it may not be more than 70 mm wide. If the thickness of the waistband exceeds 2.5 mm, a waist belt is not permitted. If a waist belt is not worn, the absolute maximum thickness of the waistband is 3.5 mm.(...)


Try to find out what did the EQ officer said was not compliant.

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My understanding it was thickness
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In that case, the ISSF has a calibration protocol. Check their web page, under regulations.
You can ask them to check if the testing gear is in calibration.

In most cases (almost all), it's not the testing equipment that's at fault...

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A big chunk of suits don't pass out of the box, especially canvas suits. I had issues with my pants being too stiff on a few panels because the seams that surround the panels didn't flex as much as the panel itself. As for the waist belt, it was probably a thickness error. The way the thickness gauge is built can sometimes result in a measurement over the edge that is folded over to give the waist belt a finished look to it. Mine had this same problem.
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Colleagues,

Rick Hawkins, US Coast Guard Academy Coach, conducted the equipment check and reports that UK's Head Coach Harry Mullins was there watching the situation and the cutting. He didn't have to cut it, he just couldn't use a belt as the waist band was 2.7mm thick, the limit is 2.5mm if someone wants to use a belt.

The waist band had a wide double layer of canvas at the seam and the cylinder that pushes down on the canvas rode up on the double layered hem. This made it thicker than allowed. They tried multiple locations in an attempt to locate a spot that passed.

He didn't need to cut out the corduroy lining. He could have cut the seam and reached in and cut out some of the hem. After cutting the hem, they could have resewed the seam. It was his and his coach's call.

Equipment control was voluntary, he didn't have to go through. The equipment was calibrated that morning and was measuring correctly.

His team-mate had an identical suit of clothes and his pants passed because the hem was shorter and allowed the cylinder to only measure the corduroy lining and one layer of canvas.

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