Swedish Cup Live final NOW

[Reinhamre]

1 8 ERREBO JENSEN Marcus / DEN,Maribo Skf 98 94 98 97 96 98 581 (24x)
2 460 NILSSON Oscar / SWE,Lönsboda Sportskytteklub 97 97 96 98 96 93 577 (19x)
3 TURUNEN Karri / FIN,FIN national team 95 95 95 97 97 97 576 (17x)
4 595 SANDBERG Carl / SWE,Öckerö Skytteförening 96 92 97 95 99 96 575 (21x)
5 62 JAHNSSON Kai / FIN,FIN 95 97 96 95 95 93 571 (17x)
6 173 HEMBRE Pål / NOR,Bærum PK 99 96 92 95 95 93 570 (19x)
7 478 OLSSON Pontus / SWE,PSKF Magnus Stenbock 95 94 99 97 92 93 570 (12x)
8 13 LARSEN Frederik / DEN,ÅRK 95 97 94 94 93 96 569 (15x

ERREBO, SANDBERG and NILSSON are only around 20 years old

Can be seen live here a bit later this evening, first ladies turn to have final.
http://www.swedishcup.nu/live_web/final ... efault.htm

[Reinhamre]

Sorry finale has gone earlier

Results for relay 1 Day 3, Finale

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12 Karri TURUNEN FIN,FIN national team APM
26 29 18 19 18 0 0 0 0
Qualification 3 () Total 3 110(116.6)
13 173 Pål HEMBRE NOR,Bærum PK APM
28 29 18 17 0 0 0 0 0
Qualification 3 () Total 3 92(96.0)
14 62 Kai JAHNSSON FIN,FIN APM
28 29 19 18 20 18 19 18 0
Qualification 3 () Total 3 169(178.4)
15 595 Carl SANDBERG SWE,Öckerö Skytteförening APM
26 28 19 19 18 17 0 0 0
Qualification 3 () Total 3 127(136.3)
16 13 Frederik LARSEN DEN,ÅRK APM
29 29 19 18 20 19 19 20 20
Qualification 3 () Total 3 193(201.3)
17 478 Pontus OLSSON SWE,PSKF Magnus Stenbock APM
27 26 18 0 0 0 0 0 0
Qualification 3 () Total 3 71(74.9)
18 8 Marcus ERREBO JENSEN DEN,Maribo Skf APM
28 30 20 19 20 19 19 20 20
Qualification 3 () Total 3 195(202.3)
19 460 Oscar NILSSON SWE,Lönsboda Sportskytteklub APM
29 28 20 16 19 20 19 0 0
Qualification 3 () Total 3 151(158.9)
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[pacpanic]

What guns are they using?

[Reinhamre]

That depends on what they like to shoot I suppose :-)
Errebo Steyr LP10
Nilsson Feinwerkbau P44
Sandberg Morini 162EI
Olsson Steyr LP10E

http://skytteunion.dk/flot-10-plads-til-errebo-i-suhl/

[David Levene]

That depends on what they like to shoot I suppose :-)
Errebo Steyr LP10
Nilsson Feinwerkbau P44
Sandberg Morini 162EI
Olsson Steyr LP10E

But that indicates that there isn't one model of gun that is clearly better than the others.

Surely that would mean that, with top level guns, it's the shooter that makes the difference.

Can that really be true ;-)

[Reinhamre]

That depends on what they like to shoot I suppose :-)
Errebo Steyr LP10
Nilsson Feinwerkbau P44
Sandberg Morini 162EI
Olsson Steyr LP10E

But that indicates that there isn't one model of gun that is clearly better than the others.

Surely that would mean that, with top level guns, it's the shooter that makes the difference.

Can that really be true ;-)

That old question has come alive again :-)
I suppose it all depends what you are used to shoot with the first years, if it feels OK then why change?
Is the service OK where you live? Is the balance right, or can that be changed? Top guns shoot one hole in target all day!
Feinwerkbau P44 is not nose heavy so that can be a preferred by some shooters.

[David Levene]

That old question has come alive again :-)

Does it ever die?

[kevinweiho]

If I am not mistaken, Steyr, Morini, and Walther, are the top three that have won the most medals in olympic airpistol history. Feinwerkbau, of course had the record wins in the 80's and was then dominated by Steyr and Morini in the 90's.

There must be some advantage over the other brands out there for top shooters to favor them. Kinda like F1, where Ferrari, McLaren, and Williams are the top three...

[NoNoBadDog]

My FWB 65 from the early 80's

[Gwhite]

If I am not mistaken, Steyr, Morini, and Walther, are the top three that have won the most medals in olympic airpistol history. Feinwerkbau, of course had the record wins in the 80's and was then dominated by Steyr and Morini in the 90's.

There must be some advantage over the other brands out there for top shooters to favor them. Kinda like F1, where Ferrari, McLaren, and Williams are the top three...

Almost anyone with modern machine tools can make barrels that will shoot one hole groups. The question is whether the ergonomics of a given pistol will allow an individual shooter to extract that accuracy. The high end pistols provide a lot of adjustability in terms of sight options, balance, weight, grips & trigger settings. Even then, every shooter is different, and what works well for one person may not suit another. What is important is which pistol suits YOU, not whether it has won lots of medals.

A lot probably also depends of what you start with, many shooters can't afford to buy more than one expensive pistol, and others may just want to work with what they are familiar with & not mess with getting used to a new pistol. Availability of service in the shooter's country is another big issue.

There are a lot of variables that have nothing to do with one pistol being "better" than another in any general sense.

[BEA]

Usually the model chosen is the one the is free, initially. Then as a shooter becomes more skilled, they all are free, so they chose the model they like best, or the one that pays best. I purchased my first 2 air pistols, the FWB 65 and then the FWB 2. However, after that I didn't have to buy another one, at least until I was not longer on the team. At one time, Steyr was giving lots of pistols away, then Walther started giving their's away along with a little money as incentive to shoot them and more money if you won a big match. I have heard that Pardini may be an exception to this in that they do not give their pistol away. However, I have to imagine that if a top tier shooter wants to try a Pardini they can obtain one for an extremely reasonable price. Money talks.

[kevinweiho]

What is important is which pistol suits YOU, not whether it has won lots of medals.

Steyr and Morini pcp pistol designs are more than 25 years old. They’re still being used by top shooters and winning medals to this day. In my opinion, that is proof that their designs are superior, while other brands have been constantly upgrading their line of pistols. You are absolutely correct that every shooter is different and what really matters is which pistol suits them the best.