Hey there!
I have a question about slings and handstops. I want to teach my boys to shoot using these combo and loose the bipod. IMO the sling and handstop is more accurate for prone.
I have an old Anschutz style handstop but it does not have the sling hook. Before I shell out money for a new hook I thought I would get your opinion about the best sling and handstop combination. Some of the handstops I've seen don't look like the sling loop is detachable. Is that right? I'm not sure how easy it is to get in and out of position.
Any help you could give me to educate this noob on the variety of setups would be great.
Thanks
Robert
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There is a wide variety of hand-stops and slings and I'll bet if you get 10 shooters to answer your question you will get 10 differing answers!
I've shot will all sorts of combos, it really comes down to individual comfort and taste. I'm very tall and broad, so I use a large diameter round stop on my position / prone guns. The diameter of this stop would probably spread the web of an average sized hand to the point of discomfort. I've had junior girls use small v-shaped stops that snug nicely into their hands and would hurt like crazy on mine. Not much of an answer I know, sorry.
On hand-stops with a fixed loop, you put a hook on the sling itself to make for easy rigging.
I hope this helps.
I've shot will all sorts of combos, it really comes down to individual comfort and taste. I'm very tall and broad, so I use a large diameter round stop on my position / prone guns. The diameter of this stop would probably spread the web of an average sized hand to the point of discomfort. I've had junior girls use small v-shaped stops that snug nicely into their hands and would hurt like crazy on mine. Not much of an answer I know, sorry.
On hand-stops with a fixed loop, you put a hook on the sling itself to make for easy rigging.
I hope this helps.
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redschietti
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Sling claws/hooks can be bought from any reputable target shooting suply shop. I've also seen them on EBay. These are a one size fits all (slings and handstops) item.
However you will first need to find the sling swivel for your handstop. This may not be easy because Anschutz no longer make it. Current Anschutz hanstops either have a ball connection or detent bb clip; these won't fit your handstop. You need a swivel that has a flat disc with cross pins, but Anschutz stopped making these 30 odd years ago.
However you will first need to find the sling swivel for your handstop. This may not be easy because Anschutz no longer make it. Current Anschutz hanstops either have a ball connection or detent bb clip; these won't fit your handstop. You need a swivel that has a flat disc with cross pins, but Anschutz stopped making these 30 odd years ago.
Generally speaking the smaller handstops are better, irrespective of hand size. The small anschutz button type ones are amongst the most popular and certainly perform very well. The larger 'V' shaped handstops tend to cause more problems because of their size and shape. I'm no engineer so can't really comment on whether buying a new setup would work better than trying to modify the one you have.
Rob.
Rob.
I'd add a caveat about small handstops.
A small diameter handstop is suitable for all sizes of hand (preference is another matter), but very shallow stops don't suit everyone. These can increase sling pressure over the back of the hand; some people don't find this a problem, but others find it uncomfortable, and need a deeper stop.
Personally I like a handstop that can be offset, so the stop fits in the V of my thumb, without my thumb muscle being too far under the stock. But this isn't something I'd worry about much for a beginner.
A small diameter handstop is suitable for all sizes of hand (preference is another matter), but very shallow stops don't suit everyone. These can increase sling pressure over the back of the hand; some people don't find this a problem, but others find it uncomfortable, and need a deeper stop.
Personally I like a handstop that can be offset, so the stop fits in the V of my thumb, without my thumb muscle being too far under the stock. But this isn't something I'd worry about much for a beginner.
Well added. I have a deeper, and coincidentally offset, handstop but that was more a fact that it came with the stock I bought rather than anything else. But certainly agree that for some people too shallow a stop can lead to discomfort / pain.Tim S wrote:I'd add a caveat about small handstops.
A small diameter handstop is suitable for all sizes of hand (preference is another matter), but very shallow stops don't suit everyone. These can increase sling pressure over the back of the hand; some people don't find this a problem, but others find it uncomfortable, and need a deeper stop.
Personally I like a handstop that can be offset, so the stop fits in the V of my thumb, without my thumb muscle being too far under the stock. But this isn't something I'd worry about much for a beginner.
Rob.
Hi Robert,
as Tim S said there were two kinds of this old Anschutz hand stops out. Both are now out of production but for the model with the ball sling swivel you can buy this swivel still from Anschutz. This swivel with the ball is also used on the 'moderner' hand stop 4751 and is really common.
For the model shown on your picture you need the not so common swivel with the flat disc and cross pins. You can't buy them regularly new from Anschutz but you can ask them for having some old stock spare parts. But beware spare parts direct from Anschutz are often really expensive, so it may be better to look at the second hand market or asking some shooting friends. The real problem with this swivels is many shooters leave then all the time on theirs slings. I have to look, maybe i have also such swivel on one of my older slings.
Here in Germany is now a good internet place for selling and buying spare shooting sports parts and some sellers are willing to sell world wide. But i have heard is can be a little tricky to register there for foreign shooters. You can find some hints about that here in the forum.
Here comes an offer with that kind of hand stop including the swivel:
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4743899
And this is an other offer of that hand stop with the more common ball swivel:
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4748690
General, a hand stop is an real individual shooting equipment, but these old Anschutz hand stops were not bad at all and were widely used in the past decades of shooting.
Regards
Frank
as Tim S said there were two kinds of this old Anschutz hand stops out. Both are now out of production but for the model with the ball sling swivel you can buy this swivel still from Anschutz. This swivel with the ball is also used on the 'moderner' hand stop 4751 and is really common.
For the model shown on your picture you need the not so common swivel with the flat disc and cross pins. You can't buy them regularly new from Anschutz but you can ask them for having some old stock spare parts. But beware spare parts direct from Anschutz are often really expensive, so it may be better to look at the second hand market or asking some shooting friends. The real problem with this swivels is many shooters leave then all the time on theirs slings. I have to look, maybe i have also such swivel on one of my older slings.
Here in Germany is now a good internet place for selling and buying spare shooting sports parts and some sellers are willing to sell world wide. But i have heard is can be a little tricky to register there for foreign shooters. You can find some hints about that here in the forum.
Here comes an offer with that kind of hand stop including the swivel:
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4743899
And this is an other offer of that hand stop with the more common ball swivel:
http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4748690
General, a hand stop is an real individual shooting equipment, but these old Anschutz hand stops were not bad at all and were widely used in the past decades of shooting.
Regards
Frank
