Squeezing grips! How long has this been happening?

[conradin]

To get back on topic and forget the BS above, 10g-15g is a very light free pistol trigger and without a lot of training very, very difficult to control.

I must be unusual then..

I am a harpsichordist. Most people cannot control their fingers the way I control it. The average key from the keyboard requires between 20 to 40g to press. A typical one currently in my bedroom, a virginal needs about 32g to press the key to make a sound. Hence I can tell what is a 10g and what is a 150g. One of my instruments' key is 15g, and that is not unusual. To ensure the key be even lighter, it is not unusual for a performer to request a technician or builder to shave the keys of the keyboard super thin. Yes, you can even do 5g. The trade of is that you can play a piece of music lightning fast.

An organist is not as sensitive, 40g is usually their minimum force require to play a key. My house organ needs around 65g to press a key. My church organ is a bit heavier.

Pianist is not as sensitive.

As for years of training, I have been playing for 25 years, I guess I did have years of training. Also all my fingers are equally sensitive to light touch, I can pull the trigger with my ring finger and I still have the same control. Naturally what my trigger finger does has nothing to do with what the rest of my fingers do.

It sounds off topic, but it is not. Just do not assume everyone MUST have a difficulty on certain things. I am not lucky, but it just by chance that years of musical and conservatory training ended up being useful for light triggers. Of course, on the other hand, I have problem dealing with heavy triggers.

My advantage is no different from someone who has a 20/20 vision at the age of 70.

Hence, YMMV. Read up on harpsichord, virginal or organ please if you are interested.

[David M]

You miss the point.
It is nearly impossible to grip a free pistol with sufficient holding force and control a 15g trigger. This is an uneven loading.
The technique to do this was a pulse style that required a lot of training.
It is much easier to hold the grip lightly, with a well fitting grip and feel a 65-80g trigger. Their is a lot more trigger feedback.

[conradin]

Thank you, this makes so much more sense now. It still does not apply to me but I understand your idea. I do have to say that, gripping hard is counter productive anyway, whether it is about trigger feedback or not.

[jliston48]

... 10g-15g is a very light free pistol trigger and without a lot of training very, very difficult to control - Try putting your trigger weight up to 65g-80g and use a lightly held grip.

When I first started shooting free pistol 40 years ago, we all strived for the lightest trigger. When I realised that I could not manage a super light trigger, I increased the trigger weight and the scores started to improve so I lightened the trigger again and was comfortable with it for many years. Then I stopped competitive shooting for 20 years. I am trying to come back to it now with the same light trigger I had before. I had been toying with your idea of increasing the trigger weight but thought I can get there with the light trigger. "Nothing ventured, nothing gained" so tomorrow, the trigger weight goes up a few notches and I'll see how that goes. Thanks for your suggestion, David. It all makes sense.