Out of curiosity for you historians and veterans out there, has the FWB80 and FWB90 ever won any world championship, world cups, or Olympics?
Or is it FWB60 won everything up until the 1992?
The difference between the 80 and the 60 is so small I don't even know why they bother to make it, since they kept making the 60, as for the 90, I don't know why they make a pneumatic pistol YET with an electronic trigger. It sounds like FWB has a strange sense of priority in technology.
FWB80 and 90
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You're probably referring to the FWB 65 (not 60).
AFAIK, the 80 wasn't a popular pistol. We have one at our club for loaning to starting shooters, I shoit it some times but I couldn't EVER set the trigger to may taste as I did with EVERY 65 that fell in my hands. Fellow and more experienced shooters here do share my opinion.
The supposed bonus of the 80 over the 65 was the ability of easily positioning the trigger blade on a longitudinal axis, something that evidently few people came to appreciate.
As for the 90, although it wasn't popular either, it's a horse of very different colour, as it was very advanced for the day. I shot one (just for the sake of it, it was a friend's) and couldn't get myself comfortable with the electronic trigger, but twenty years later and having tested a lot of pistol, I still prefer mechanical ones, my current tool is a LP-10 (FWIW).
I always thought that the coming into scene of the FWB CO2 pistols in 1985 did offset any qualities of the electronic trigger with the vast improvement of the precompressed charge (no more 80 lever cockings per match).
AFAIK, the 80 wasn't a popular pistol. We have one at our club for loaning to starting shooters, I shoit it some times but I couldn't EVER set the trigger to may taste as I did with EVERY 65 that fell in my hands. Fellow and more experienced shooters here do share my opinion.
The supposed bonus of the 80 over the 65 was the ability of easily positioning the trigger blade on a longitudinal axis, something that evidently few people came to appreciate.
As for the 90, although it wasn't popular either, it's a horse of very different colour, as it was very advanced for the day. I shot one (just for the sake of it, it was a friend's) and couldn't get myself comfortable with the electronic trigger, but twenty years later and having tested a lot of pistol, I still prefer mechanical ones, my current tool is a LP-10 (FWIW).
I always thought that the coming into scene of the FWB CO2 pistols in 1985 did offset any qualities of the electronic trigger with the vast improvement of the precompressed charge (no more 80 lever cockings per match).
I really liked the FWB 90. I have never been able to duplicate the high scores I shot with it (of course I was a lot younger). I finally got rid of it the second time the elecronics failed, as it was somewhat unreliable.
I think guys are kidding themselves thinking they will do better with a more "modern" AP, even if they don't exhaust themselves cocking it (weenies). I've seen FWB 65s really cheap, but if it makes you feel better...
I think guys are kidding themselves thinking they will do better with a more "modern" AP, even if they don't exhaust themselves cocking it (weenies). I've seen FWB 65s really cheap, but if it makes you feel better...
You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but in the times I shot with a FWB 65, we had 135 minutes, now we have 105...........
My best scores were made with a FWB Mod. 2, and I still remember how secure I felt my grip without all the torsion and effort to cock the pistol each shot. Of course , I was much younger then, but the feeling was not matched when I upgraded first to a Mod. 20 and then to a LP-1-C, they were more "of a kind" between them, improvements were more subtle.
My best scores were made with a FWB Mod. 2, and I still remember how secure I felt my grip without all the torsion and effort to cock the pistol each shot. Of course , I was much younger then, but the feeling was not matched when I upgraded first to a Mod. 20 and then to a LP-1-C, they were more "of a kind" between them, improvements were more subtle.
Definitely yes, but to be frank to you, I can't now (2013) recollect how much my improvement was due to the new pistol and how much due to personal advance as a shooter.
But I certainly do remember how I valued the ability to conserve a good grip once I got it, making 10 or 12 very good shots in a row only loading and shooting without any kind of distraction; and the nose-heavy weight disposition of the FWB Mod. 2, which I liked, and still like, I shoot my full size LP10 with 20 grams near the muzzle.
But I certainly do remember how I valued the ability to conserve a good grip once I got it, making 10 or 12 very good shots in a row only loading and shooting without any kind of distraction; and the nose-heavy weight disposition of the FWB Mod. 2, which I liked, and still like, I shoot my full size LP10 with 20 grams near the muzzle.