Whats the Law in your country
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orionshooter
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I have come to this thread late (and may have not picked up on all the nuances with my quick scan), but what impresses me in this discussion of the law related to firearms is that a vital point seems to have been missed: in general, those people who kill people with a firearm in a civilian context (not war) are operating outside the law. The actions are illegal and the firearms are illegal, most often, never registered. This fact seems to escape our law makers and therefore we get ever increasingly draconian legislation.
The folly of the lawmaking is demonstrated by the post from Telecomtodd that:
It is interesting to note that Canada (I believe) is planning to abolish its firearms registry since it appears to achieve nothing and is costing the nation a truckload of cash.
The folly of the lawmaking is demonstrated by the post from Telecomtodd that:
Only a law abiding citizen would put up with that. A criminal’s response to the officer’s challenge is anyone’s guess.My permit is linked directly to my driver's license. If I was pulled over, the officer could pull up my license with his in-car computer and see I have my permit. When he approaches my car, I am obligated to immediately tell the officer that I have a concealed carry permit, and he (in most cases) will take the gun from you, unload it, and hold it for safekeeping until the road stop is completed.
It is interesting to note that Canada (I believe) is planning to abolish its firearms registry since it appears to achieve nothing and is costing the nation a truckload of cash.
From two tours in Afghanistan and many friends coming back from Iraq, I can tell you that the problem isn't anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, mortars, nor artillery. It is a largely unhelpful populace combined with small arms fire and improvised explosive devices. (To a certain degree, I understand where the general population is coming from. They may like what we're doing, but they know we're leaving, while the Taliban can wait us out and will be around to punish them and their families as soon as we're gone.)JamesH wrote:In both places they have/had access to military hardware up to and including anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, mortars and artillery, not pocket pistols and semi-auto rifles.
James, where have you gained your knowledge of guerrilla warfare that leads you to believe that "anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, mortars and artillery" guarantee victory?
Many of the RPG's and other heavy weapons were liberated from occupiers by highjacking military convoys with small arms. But most were supplied by nations unfriendly to the dominant force. So if there ever was a guerilla war in the US I can assure you that there would be nations supplying and smuggling heavy arms to the guerillas.
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dontshootcritters
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Ive just ordered a Bleiker Challenger from the factory and all I needed to import it into New Zealand was a permit from the police which took five minutes to obtain and was free!As long as the shooter is on the police approved list its no hassle.Not sure how pistol boys fair but I couldnt believe how straight forward it was.Customs were great too.I did have to send a copy of the permit to Switzerland as it was a requirement from the Swiss Government but no hassles really to be had.Its only taking 4 days to get to NZ from Switzerland and probably twice that for the local frieght company to get it to me!
Don't invade a middle eastern country for no good reason or without a plan, duh.sparky wrote:From two tours in Afghanistan and many friends coming back from Iraq, I can tell you that the problem isn't anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, mortars, nor artillery. It is a largely unhelpful populace combined with small arms fire and improvised explosive devices. (To a certain degree, I understand where the general population is coming from. They may like what we're doing, but they know we're leaving, while the Taliban can wait us out and will be around to punish them and their families as soon as we're gone.)JamesH wrote:In both places they have/had access to military hardware up to and including anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, mortars and artillery, not pocket pistols and semi-auto rifles.
Definitely don't do both.
They aren't going to win though are they? They just don't have the firepower.
I didn't say they guaranteed victory, I have noticed that no country has resisted an invader or toppled a tyrannical govt without them.James, where have you gained your knowledge of guerrilla warfare that leads you to believe that "anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, mortars and artillery" guarantee victory?
We aren't in the 1700s, your right to own an updated musket doesn't guarantee freedom - the world has moved on.
Who are you getting to ship it to NZ? Since Swiss Post stopped handling firearms a few years ago, I've found Switzerland the most expensive European country to get a pistol out of.dontshootcritters wrote:Ive just ordered a Bleiker Challenger from the factory and all I needed to import it into New Zealand was a permit from the police which took five minutes to obtain and was free!As long as the shooter is on the police approved list its no hassle.Not sure how pistol boys fair but I couldnt believe how straight forward it was.Customs were great too.I did have to send a copy of the permit to Switzerland as it was a requirement from the Swiss Government but no hassles really to be had.Its only taking 4 days to get to NZ from Switzerland and probably twice that for the local frieght company to get it to me!
Pretty much the same except the import permit has to be approved by Police HQ in Wellington, it usually adds a couple of days to the process.dontshootcritters wrote: ...Not sure how pistol boys fair...
Leon, you are right, the days of getting a pistol posted out of Switzerland for less than $50 are long gone (unfortunately) and now it's more like $200 with an air freight company.
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orionshooter
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Just the other day in Australia a politician suggested that gun owners be limited to only 3 guns each
Politically point scoring obviously, a typical politician who has no idea that a professional hunter may need several rifles of different caliber depending on the game they were hunting or a target shooter requiring several pistols for different matches held.
Politically point scoring obviously, a typical politician who has no idea that a professional hunter may need several rifles of different caliber depending on the game they were hunting or a target shooter requiring several pistols for different matches held.
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BenEnglishTX
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Wonder what JamesH thinks about this one...trevorw wrote:Just the other day in Australia a politician suggested that gun owners be limited to only 3 guns each
Politically point scoring obviously, a typical politician who has no idea that a professional hunter may need several rifles of different caliber depending on the game they were hunting or a target shooter requiring several pistols for different matches held.
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