buttons

dontshootcritters · Post by **dontshootcritters** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:25 am

Hi guys

I have a mtm Sauer jacket which Ive had a couple of years now,When it arrived the buttons were already fitted but there was no way that I could do them up when in postion.Not even close.
I only shoot prone and if I pull the left side under my body when I get into postion it does seem to be ok and I have noted that some of the top shooters dont use buttons but is this the best option or should I be looking for a new jacket?
Thanks for the input especially if you shoot without the buttons done up.

RobStubbs · Post by **RobStubbs** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:37 am

I don't know any top shooters that don't use buttons, although some may only use one, but not many that I recall seeing.

I'd first of all try moving the buttons, if you're unable to then yes a new jacket would seem the only other option.

<edit> meant to say I shoot with the top 3 buttons done up in prone.

Rob.

dontshootcritters · Post by **dontshootcritters** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:08 am

Hi Rob

Ok thanks.I was sure that I seen Sergei in a couple of WC matches on Youtube where he didnt have buttons done up

Dave IRL · Post by **Dave IRL** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:09 am

I don't wear any of the buttons done up for prone either, or for kneeling. It's nice in that there's no compromise in how the jacket is set up between positions as the buttons are for standing only. I've found that even just the top button only adds tension but no additional support, since all support is already taken care of through the manufacture of the back and shoulders in prone. There aren't many at top level who leave the whole thing open, but there are a few. Personally, I just tuck the one side under me loosely and shoot away. It's certainly not the determining factor in my crappy shooting.

Richard H · Post by **Richard H** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:43 am

This is just a question but doesn't it have to be done up to pass equipment control?

dontshootcritters · Post by **dontshootcritters** » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:27 am

If there are no buttons present on the jacket there is no overlap to test for as it cant be locked in place and tested as with a button that is fastened in place

BM · Post by BM » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:05 pm

Most Russian shooters keep the buttons free in prone. But be aware, this only works if the jacket fits perfect around the shoulders. The shoulders should prevent the jacket from moving.
Change the buttons by means of trial and error. It's something personal.

Hemmers · Post by **Hemmers** » Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:35 am

Yeah, there's a few fullbore shooters (who shoot prone-only) who don't bother with the buttons. They've usually bought a prone-only jacket, but it can be done with a general purpose/3P jacket, so long as it fits well over the shoulders.