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Walther SSP trigger not resetting
I have a Walther SSP I have been shooting for two years. During rapid fire, the trigger does not reset. I literally have to completely remove my finger from touching the trigger and even then, it takes a couple of movements of the durigger (1st stage) before it resets.
If I am doing timed or slow fire it is fine. I can relax the trigger and even take up a little of the play in the first stage and the trigger resets fine.
I keep the pistol clean, I have sprayed G-96 into the trigger assembly and blown it out. I have not made any adjustments to the trigger. Despite the new trigger documentation released by Walther, I am rather intimidated with the adjustments. Can anyone suggest what might me the problem?
I have about 10,000 round through the pistol and keep it clean. Does anyon know what I mean about the trigger resetting so it can fire? The action is clean and all the springs are in place. Thanks.
If I am doing timed or slow fire it is fine. I can relax the trigger and even take up a little of the play in the first stage and the trigger resets fine.
I keep the pistol clean, I have sprayed G-96 into the trigger assembly and blown it out. I have not made any adjustments to the trigger. Despite the new trigger documentation released by Walther, I am rather intimidated with the adjustments. Can anyone suggest what might me the problem?
I have about 10,000 round through the pistol and keep it clean. Does anyon know what I mean about the trigger resetting so it can fire? The action is clean and all the springs are in place. Thanks.
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I had the same issue yesterday plus more
I was shooting a friend's SSP for the first time yesterday and at some point the trigger got way too heavy and I had to remove the magazine and start all over.
Then all of a sudden I had a spent case caught in the breech (FTE=Fail To Eject).
Again I had to stop and remove the magazine and start all over again.
A second non-resetting trigger occurred towards the end of a 5-shot string.
It is a first-batch model and has been shot very little. Ammo was Geco Rifle (red box) and my score from this first attempt with the SSP @ 25m offhand was 537/600.
Any ideas as to what is happening?
Then all of a sudden I had a spent case caught in the breech (FTE=Fail To Eject).
Again I had to stop and remove the magazine and start all over again.
A second non-resetting trigger occurred towards the end of a 5-shot string.
It is a first-batch model and has been shot very little. Ammo was Geco Rifle (red box) and my score from this first attempt with the SSP @ 25m offhand was 537/600.
Any ideas as to what is happening?
Thanks Richard H,
It had not been shot for a while and as this isn't mine (yet), I cannot at this point attest on its state of readiness. I only know that the owner has shot his highest score w/it (apparently 567/600 or so) before stoppages forced him out of two national competitions and returned to his trusty GSP Expert. He claims that he has never touched any of the factory settings on the SSP ever since he got it several years ago.
I am being offered to try and shoot it and see if it functions in my hand and attempt using it in a match without malfunctions. I may give it a go in a local standard pistol match soon and see how it performs. In the meantime I am practicing w/it once a week. I really like it as it is lightweight and points perfectly with minimum upward recoil.
Is there anything I can do/check on my part (externally), as a part-time user on the shooting range before or after a practicing?
It had not been shot for a while and as this isn't mine (yet), I cannot at this point attest on its state of readiness. I only know that the owner has shot his highest score w/it (apparently 567/600 or so) before stoppages forced him out of two national competitions and returned to his trusty GSP Expert. He claims that he has never touched any of the factory settings on the SSP ever since he got it several years ago.
I am being offered to try and shoot it and see if it functions in my hand and attempt using it in a match without malfunctions. I may give it a go in a local standard pistol match soon and see how it performs. In the meantime I am practicing w/it once a week. I really like it as it is lightweight and points perfectly with minimum upward recoil.
Is there anything I can do/check on my part (externally), as a part-time user on the shooting range before or after a practicing?
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There's the problem. Screws are designed to be turned. ;-)Crete wrote:He claims that he has never touched any of the factory settings on the SSP ever since he got it several years ago.
Being serious, It would be rare to find a top quality target pistol that didn't benefit from some degree of adjustment once it had been "shot-in".
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You will probably want to look at:-
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... rachig.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... 759977.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... 759985.pdf
If you can translate from Spanish you might also want:-
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... anisch.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... anisch.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... rachig.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... 759977.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... 759985.pdf
If you can translate from Spanish you might also want:-
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... anisch.pdf
http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/SS ... anisch.pdf
If it's an early SSP there is an o ring on the one guid rod that needs to be lubed, according to the Walther Sports Service people it was responsible for many early failures that's whybthey dropped it latter on.
Go to the Walther web site and it has the latest instructions on setting the trigger. Any time you admit the trigger you have to readjust the engagement as well. Thevtrigger adjustments are dependent on one another, it sounds complicated but it you follow the instructions it pretty easy.
Then just make sure it's cleaned and lubed.
Go to the Walther web site and it has the latest instructions on setting the trigger. Any time you admit the trigger you have to readjust the engagement as well. Thevtrigger adjustments are dependent on one another, it sounds complicated but it you follow the instructions it pretty easy.
Then just make sure it's cleaned and lubed.
Since you're all talking about the SSP trigger, I have a question about it that is related to the original. Does this trigger have a long reset? That is, do you need to allow the trigger to travel forward significantly in order for it to reset properly?
I seem to recall the really old Walther triggers had a short reset. When Walther redesigned their triggers in the early to mid '90s, the reset seemed long. I am curious to know if the reset on the SSP also has a long reset.
Thanks.
I seem to recall the really old Walther triggers had a short reset. When Walther redesigned their triggers in the early to mid '90s, the reset seemed long. I am curious to know if the reset on the SSP also has a long reset.
Thanks.
Well I never found any of my GSP triggers both single stage and double stage to be strangely longer in travel to reset, nor do I find the SSP trigger to have a longer than normal travelnto reset. The SSP trigger shares absolutely nothing with the GSP Triggers, it's a totally different trigger.
It does need to be set up properly, early instructions were poor, have since been corrected and if they are followed the trigger can easily be set to ones liking. If not followed enjoy the frustration, the settings effect one another and have to be adjusted in order and readjusted.
It does need to be set up properly, early instructions were poor, have since been corrected and if they are followed the trigger can easily be set to ones liking. If not followed enjoy the frustration, the settings effect one another and have to be adjusted in order and readjusted.
Wow. There are so many bibs and bobs that need sorting. I read the brochures and I will see about the O-ring and the trigger set up when I get another go with this particular (early-production) SSP next Monday and I will keep you posted.
As a byline, I have shot the GSP and the SSP within days apart and they are completely different pistols due to their triggers being dissimilar. I prefer the SSP trigger hands down, although it is not (as yet) been set up to my preferences but to those of the factory. (I verified that the original owner has never touched this Walther SSP S/N WSP015XX).
It seems that high velocity ammo (rifle-type) should be used with the 1.0mm or large nozzle hole in the damping plunger (cover screw w/one groove), and subsonic or pistol ammo with the fitted as standard 0.6mm (one groove) or small nozzle hole.
Did I get this right? I will try both types of ammo next time at the range to see what happens with which.
Kindly.
As a byline, I have shot the GSP and the SSP within days apart and they are completely different pistols due to their triggers being dissimilar. I prefer the SSP trigger hands down, although it is not (as yet) been set up to my preferences but to those of the factory. (I verified that the original owner has never touched this Walther SSP S/N WSP015XX).
It seems that high velocity ammo (rifle-type) should be used with the 1.0mm or large nozzle hole in the damping plunger (cover screw w/one groove), and subsonic or pistol ammo with the fitted as standard 0.6mm (one groove) or small nozzle hole.
Did I get this right? I will try both types of ammo next time at the range to see what happens with which.
Kindly.
Yes check if you have the o-ring if you do clean the port very well with the nylon brush and lube with the supplied grease then put some grease on the o-ring. If no o-ring clean the port and lube the port.
As for port size they control the amount of damping, larger opening less dampening, smaller orifice more damping. Target rifle or Pistol ammo is very close and I consider standard velocity for both, low velocity is the Rapid fire stuff. I never shot high velocity stuff through my target guns.You can try both orifices to see what you prefer and which allows the gun to cycle properly. I'm using the large orifice.
If you do require assistance from Walther make sure you email the sports service department. They are very good at responding, if you send it to general delivery or sales you'll never hear from them.
Make small adjustments with the trigger while setting it up, until you get it the way you like it.
As for port size they control the amount of damping, larger opening less dampening, smaller orifice more damping. Target rifle or Pistol ammo is very close and I consider standard velocity for both, low velocity is the Rapid fire stuff. I never shot high velocity stuff through my target guns.You can try both orifices to see what you prefer and which allows the gun to cycle properly. I'm using the large orifice.
If you do require assistance from Walther make sure you email the sports service department. They are very good at responding, if you send it to general delivery or sales you'll never hear from them.
Make small adjustments with the trigger while setting it up, until you get it the way you like it.
Kind thanks Richard H.
I think I am beginning to get the theory (at least) behind the SSP/shooter set up. I shoot whatever is available at the range. I will keep an eye for standard velocity fodder, although what is generally available is Pistol Match-grade ammo (Lapua and Geco) as well as rifle, subsonic and high vel. There used to be a good supply of CCI SV 1080fps but it's all gone now. Maybe after the Summer when the personnel returns from vacation they may offer more choice.
Kindly.
EDIT to add this Walther Germany web page that seems to go into great detail re the function of the dampening mechanism with examples of ammo tested:http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/DW ... P_Plus.pdf Now I need a good translation into English.
I think I am beginning to get the theory (at least) behind the SSP/shooter set up. I shoot whatever is available at the range. I will keep an eye for standard velocity fodder, although what is generally available is Pistol Match-grade ammo (Lapua and Geco) as well as rifle, subsonic and high vel. There used to be a good supply of CCI SV 1080fps but it's all gone now. Maybe after the Summer when the personnel returns from vacation they may offer more choice.
Kindly.
EDIT to add this Walther Germany web page that seems to go into great detail re the function of the dampening mechanism with examples of ammo tested:http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/DW ... P_Plus.pdf Now I need a good translation into English.
Yes, some velocity information but the article is mainly Walther publicity.Crete wrote:EDIT to add this Walther Germany web page that seems to go into great detail re the function of the dampening mechanism with examples of ammo tested:http://www.carl-walther.de/files/pdf/DW ... P_Plus.pdf Now I need a good translation into English.