anzchutz cil 190

birdwatcher · Post by **birdwatcher** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:00 pm

hello all new here im just wondering how many adult shooters here are using a 64 action anschutz? i use one for prone 50m at the swiss club i shoot at, im putting on a butstock extension for better fit. I know many adult shooters have the 54 action rifles and or walther kk300 etc at how much of a disadvantage am i

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:29 pm

birdwatcher wrote:... how much of a disadvantage am i

That depends. The 190 is a decent rifle and capable of good scores. How well are you actually shooting it and what other equipment are you using? If you're using an old 10x cotton jacket without a sling the rifle isn't what's holding you back. And do you have any specific goals, such as medaling (sp?) at the smallbore nationals in Calgary this summer? More info would help us provide better advice.

Jason

birdwatcher · Post by **birdwatcher** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:32 am

sure, well i use it with a sling and handstop i bought for it and have a adjustable but piece on the way. currently im only shooting at the swiss rifle club which aside from full bore 300m we do 50 m prone rimfire my highest score at this time with the rifle is 85 out of a possible score of 100. i am using my canadian army shooting jacket which is tailor made by for me its more of a sniper field firing jacket with padding. i know i need a proper civilian shooting jacket. i guess im wondering how far will the 64 action take me? is there any other rimfire events in the edmonton area. at this time im thinking about getting into biathalon as well i may get a biathalon rifle and also shoot it at the swiss club for extra practice as scores of 80 + are enough to qualify for some swiss shooting medals.

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:12 am

A proper one-point sling and handstop is a good start, but you'll be hampered by the field shooting jacket (and it wouldn't be match legal anyway). Are you shooting the sporting rifle or ISSF targets -- it sounds like ISSF.

When the Strathcona range was closed shooters in Edmonton lost an amazing place to train. There are a number of clubs around the city but none of them specialize in smallbore target rifle, although there are a number of benchresters and biathletes.

The Match 64 is considered a junior or sporter action and if you really want to be serious a proper Match 54 (or equivalent Walther/FWB/Bleiker/G&E) along with all the equipment is needed to be competitive at even the provincial level.

There are a lot of great shooters in Alberta and the Steve Johnson Range in Calgary has some interesting wind patterns. If you picked up a basic ISSF jacket you could shoot the nationals in Calgary this August and get a better sense of what's being used.

Jason

nester · Post by **nester** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:08 pm

I would say that 85/100 is pretty low to blame the rifle.
Yes, Match 64 is not that good as Match 54, but I don't think it would make you 95/100...

Test your rifle - shoot using benchrest and/or ask somebody really experienced to shoot it - will there be the difference?
Also try different ammo.

I think (very broad assumption) that if your rifle is not broken/defective - it should work in 98+ range.
Match 54, custom barrels, match-level ammo, and the rest of things are needed only when you are really squeezing last 2 points.. And when you need to get them every time.

birdwatcher · Post by **birdwatcher** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:58 pm

well the rifle is mint and i hope by adding a adjustable but piece will help the fit much better and perhaps a proper shooting jacket should be a priority. I am new at this type of shooting and am begining to realy enjoy it. this shooting diciplin is completley new to me but shooting certainly isnt. i think the smart thing for me is to carry on with the 64 action rifle for now and obtain a proper shooting jacket but i would like a better heavier rifle in a year or two any sugestions on a model for the future i like the look of the wood 1907 and have looked at these unique weirauch target guns any opinions on them they may be simaler to another 64 action gun here is the link http://www.weihrauch-sport.de/englisch/ ... ndjagd.htm.

And if possible can someone give me links to retailers in Canada who sell anschutz,walther,FWB etc

nester · Post by **nester** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:49 pm

Anschutz in Canada - http://www.targetshootingproducts.com/s ... p?cPath=64

birdwatcher · Post by **birdwatcher** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:02 pm

thanks for the anschutz link how about walther or feinwerkbau in Canada

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 4:20 pm

If the rifle is in good condition and fits you well, then by all means upgrade the buttplate, find yourself a decent ISSF-style jacket and have at it -- the rifle will outshoot you for quite a while. You may also want to consider upgrading the sights with adjustable front and rear irises if you do a lot of shooting outdoors.

But if you're interested in Walther, talk to Harvey at airgunsplus.ca; if you're interested in FWB, call Jocelyn at targets.ca. Both Harvey and Jocelyn are great guys and know their products well. There are also a number of lightly used and well loved second hand rifles on the domestic market.

And if you haven't already, go to albertarifle.com to find out what's going on in the province. Have fun!

Jason

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