LP 10 TANK FILLING

darticus · Post by **darticus** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:29 pm

Boy this is tough work filling these thanks. Is there a small compressor that would put the air in? I have the hand pump but tough once you get older. Great for you young guys! Are compressors for this ever for sale? Thanks Ron

kevinweiho · Post by **kevinweiho** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:54 pm

darticus:

Which hand pump do you own?

I have an FX 3 stage pump and it has always been very easy to
fill up the LP-10 cylinders. Takes less than five minutes...

Maybe you got the wrong technique and you aren't pumping efficiently or your o-rings needs to be replaced.

Use your upper body weight to apply the pressure.

darticus · Post by **darticus** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:01 pm

[quote="kevinweiho"]darticus:

Which hand pump do you own?

I have an FX 3 stage pump and it has always been very easy to
fill up the LP-10 cylinders. Takes less than five minutes...

Maybe you got the wrong technique and you aren't pumping efficiently or your o-rings needs to be replaced.

Use your upper body weight to apply the pressure.[/quote

I have the Hill High Pressure Hand Pump
http://www.pilkguns.com/pistolaccessories.shtml
Its not real bad but its work and I have to wait 30 mins to do a second tank.

David Levene · Post by **David Levene** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:12 pm

Do you run the cylinders right down to the end of the green section.

It's a lot easier if you refill after a "matchfull", say 70-80 shots.

Far fewer strokes needed although they are the high force ones.

Mike M. (as guest) · Post by **Mike M. (as guest)** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:15 pm

I seem to recollect having seen a Gehmann compressor...you could even get it fitted for 110v for the U.S. market.

But most people just get a scuba tank.

Hemmers · Post by **Hemmers** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:18 pm

Yeah, scuba tank is the way to go. Filled up from a dive store or obliging fire station (you want dry, filtered, breathing air).
Lasts a good while if you get a decent sized one and it's just you using it.
Otherwise make sure you get the pump maintained so the o-rings are replaced as necessary, and top it up after a shoot, rather than shooting till it's empty.

Richard H · Post by **Richard H** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:28 pm

There are compressors, but they are expensive and require maintenance. They might make sense for a club but for an individual and scuba tank makes way more sense.

deadeyedick · Post by **deadeyedick** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:37 pm

Yeah, scuba tank is the way to go

Absolutely the ONLY way to go. Would you ride a horse to the Pistol club, instead of driving your car?....no way !

I screw the cylinder onto the scuba tank and turn on the valve for 2-3 seconds...instant 200 bar.
A word of advice if you are going to acquire a scuba tank. Try and get hold of a 300 bar tank instead of a 200 bar. You will have to watch the gauge when refilling, and turn it off at the 200 bar mark, but the extra reserve with 300 makes the added expense worthwhile.
I have my tank topped up at the dive shop about every 6-12 months [depending on use] at a cost of $5. It has to be tested every 5 years, which costs me $30 bucks.

darticus · Post by **darticus** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:11 pm

deadeyedick wrote:
Yeah, scuba tank is the way to go

Absolutely the ONLY way to go. Would you ride a horse to the Pistol club, instead of driving your car?....no way !

I screw the cylinder onto the scuba tank and turn on the valve for 2-3 seconds...instant 200 bar.
A word of advice if you are going to acquire a scuba tank. Try and get hold of a 300 bar tank instead of a 200 bar. You will have to watch the gauge when refilling, and turn it off at the 200 bar mark, but the extra reserve with 300 makes the added expense worthwhile.
I have my tank topped up at the dive shop about every 6-12 months [depending on use] at a cost of $5. It has to be tested every 5 years, which costs me $30 bucks.

This really sounds like the way to go. Wonder how much a tank would be. Do you just buy a used one somewhere and fill it? Maybe I have to call around.
Just went to ebay and this one looks ok http://cgi.ebay.com/US-DIVERS-80CF-3000 ... 3a5cdd9d43 but don't know if another connection thingy is needed to connect the gun LP10 Cartridge to.
Will a paint ball 3000psi tank fill our cartridges? Thanks Ron

Jack Milchanowski · Post by **Jack Milchanowski** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:37 pm

Darticus

Please take a few minutes and read the information found on this page: http://www.pilkguns.com/scuba.shtml It should prove helpful.

Come see us in the woods.
Jack

deadeyedick · Post by **deadeyedick** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:28 am

Thats a 200 bar scuba tank darticus, and would meet your needs perfectly. It will increase the enjoyment factor of air pistol shooting ten fold, as opposed to using a pump.

darticus · Post by **darticus** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:50 pm

deadeyedick wrote:Thats a 200 bar scuba tank darticus, and would meet your needs perfectly. It will increase the enjoyment factor of air pistol shooting ten fold, as opposed to using a pump.

Thanks for the info. This tank is a 3000psi tank I thought it was a 300 bar. I thought the 2000psi tanks are 200 bar. Maybe you can explain.
Will a paint ball tank fill the LP 10 cartridge and is an adapter needed on the paint ball tank to do this?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:55 pm

deadeyedick wrote:Thats a 200 bar scuba tank darticus, and would meet your needs perfectly. It will increase the enjoyment factor of air pistol shooting ten fold, as opposed to using a pump.

unless you shoot twice a day, there's nothing wrong with a pump. it is only a very light workout to fill it.

deadeyedick · Post by **deadeyedick** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:48 am

Thanks for the info. This tank is a 3000psi tank I thought it was a 300 bar. I thought the 2000psi tanks are 200 bar. Maybe you can explain.
Will a paint ball tank fill the LP 10 cartridge and is an adapter needed on the paint ball tank to do this?

The 3000 psi is a tad over 200 bar, and 300 bar is a little under 4500 psi.
Best way toook at it is one bar is approx 14.5 psi, so just multiply bar by 14.5 to get psi, or divide psi by 14.5 to obtain bar.]
Unfortunately I have no knowledge of paintball tanks, but at the prices shown on e bay, I would find it hard to pass on the scuba.

darticus · Post by **darticus** » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:19 am

deadeyedick wrote:
Thanks for the info. This tank is a 3000psi tank I thought it was a 300 bar. I thought the 2000psi tanks are 200 bar. Maybe you can explain.
Will a paint ball tank fill the LP 10 cartridge and is an adapter needed on the paint ball tank to do this?
The 3000 psi is a tad over 200 bar, and 300 bar is a little under 4500 psi.
Best way toook at it is one bar is approx 14.5 psi, so just multiply bar by 14.5 to get psi, or divide psi by 14.5 to obtain bar.]
Unfortunately I have no knowledge of paintball tanks, but at the prices shown on e bay, I would find it hard to pass on the scuba.

Now that answers it. Thanks!